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    Although there is snow on the ground, the air is starting to smell like baseball.
    Pitchers and catchers have reported - MLB Network is heating up!! Let's get Harper and Machado signed and get this season rolling!!
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    #77
    Hunter Pence signs minor league contract with the Texas Rangers....says goodbye to the Giants! Owners not signing free agents...as 50 still don't have jobs...Owners working together...Best regards, David
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    #78
    Not sure if the owners are working together like collusion or they think they have a better appreciation for a player’s true worth and realize that no one is worth the crazy money that many of these veteran ball players’ agents are demanding.

    For example, I would love for the Red Sox to resign Kimberl but the money he demanding is just not worth it. That money could go a long way to signing either Bogaerts, Benintendi or Betts long term.
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    #79
    When good people do nothing..... Best regards, David
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    #80
    I agree with your statement about good people doing nothing, tyranny will prevail. Unfortunately, neither the players nor the owners are the victims.

    Both sides are tossing out numbers that the vast majority of us will never get a sniff of in our entire lifetimes. It’s us, the fans, who ultimately suffer.

    This is is great philosophical debate.

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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo374 View Post
    I agree with your statement about good people doing nothing, tyranny will prevail. Unfortunately, neither the players nor the owners are the victims.

    Both sides are tossing out numbers that the vast majority of us will never get a sniff of in our entire lifetimes. It’s us, the fans, who ultimately suffer.

    This is is great philosophical debate.

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    I think there is a bit of irresponsibility on both sides of the aisle. In all honesty though, if a free agent hitter signs a 2 year deal worth 10 million a year, and than goes out and hits .232, does the owner get a refund? No, he still has to pay them. On the flip side, if a player outperforms a contract, he wants to get paid. There is no easy solution.

    Maybe in the next collective bargaining negotiations, everyone just does what Trevor Bauer does, and only sign 1 year contracts and bet on yourself every single year to get paid.

    Got to remember, for every Machado/Harper there is a Chris Davis/Ryan Howard deal out there. And that doesn't even account for the deals out there like Cabrera and Pujols.

    When Machado and Harper sign, they better have fast starts out of the gate, or the fans will be all over them, especially if it is NY or Philly. Stanton was getting booed in the Bronx in April last year.....
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    Mike Moustakas signed with Milwaukee. 1 year - $10 million with a mutual option for 2020.
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    #83
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    Mike Moustakas signed with Milwaukee. 1 year - $10 million with a mutual option for 2020.
    Seems reasonable.

    Looking back at the FA situation - I think another aspect of it is that the "big spenders" aren't really involved this year. And that makes things difficult for the agents. When it is the Red Sox bidding against the Yankees, the price shoots up. When it is the Padres bidding against the White Sox, not so much! And I also believe that GM's are getting smart to how Boras and other agents do business, trying to get them to bid against themselves (see A-Rod).

    With that said - rumor is that a private jet flew into Clearwater, FLA from the west coast last night. Harper signing with the Phillies today?????
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    #84
    Agree: with Cubs, Dodgers, Red Sox and Yankees laying low, prices are lower AND speculation not quite as frenzied.
    Saw where Harper tweeted re: a spring training pic that Rhys Hoskins posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katester44 View Post
    Seems reasonable.

    Looking back at the FA situation - I think another aspect of it is that the "big spenders" aren't really involved this year. And that makes things difficult for the agents. When it is the Red Sox bidding against the Yankees, the price shoots up. When it is the Padres bidding against the White Sox, not so much! And I also believe that GM's are getting smart to how Boras and other agents do business, trying to get them to bid against themselves (see A-Rod).

    With that said - rumor is that a private jet flew into Clearwater, FLA from the west coast last night. Harper signing with the Phillies today?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boots View Post
    Agree: with Cubs, Dodgers, Red Sox and Yankees laying low, prices are lower AND speculation not quite as frenzied.
    Saw where Harper tweeted re: a spring training pic that Rhys Hoskins posted.
    Who knows?
    Selfies with Phillies -- always good!

    Wonder how the following would play out...Someone wants to be a $300 million player. Instead of $30 million for 10 years - offer up $50 million for 6 years. Wonder if that would change the narrative at all. Same money, just less years and less liability for the team on the back end of the deal. And would give someone like a Harper or Machado a chance to sign one more big dollar deal for at least a couple years while still "in their prime".
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    #86
    And they are thinking about having him play second base!
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    #87
    Machado to the Padres!!!! Machado to the Padres!!!!

    What's going to happen to the BV of his cards?
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    #88
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    Machado to the Padres!!!! Machado to the Padres!!!!

    What's going to happen to the BV of his cards?
    Good question. He could be heading into a baseball purgatory. By that I mean San Diego is not necessarily the hot bed of sports in this country and, unless the Padres turn it around and win big, he may fade into some oblivion. Good or bad, New York, Boston, Chicago, are the markets where players get the most exposure.
    Perhaps Manny can turn that around a bit.
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    #89
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    Machado to the Padres!!!! Machado to the Padres!!!!

    What's going to happen to the BV of his cards?
    I am going to assume that his RC's/Autos won't be hurt much, but his new Padres base/inserts will definitely be a bit lower than had he signed with a big market.

    One more domino to fall in Harper and than I am betting guys like Kimbrel and Keuchel get deals done pretty quickly.
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    #90
    Super sub Marwin Gonzalez signs with Minnesota. 2 years - $21 million
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