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Meliah
12-16-2006, 04:28 AM
The Bench has decided to come up with something unique for those of you that are serious player collectors--the Super Collector title! We know this term is thrown around quite a bit in this hobby of ours and most people have different opinions on what makes a SC. The only thing being deemed a SC on The Bench gets you is a bigger font in the Players Collections section and a banner underneath your avatar. This is a trade tool for our collectors as well as a little something fun:)

Here is the deal:

--One player per Bench member can be submitted(for now, this is subject to potential change). Since this is a trade tool you need to have an up-to-date want or have list of the player, must have 20 completed trades and a 5.0 Trader Rating!

--Mod team votes and shall consider the collection as a whole, this includes non-card items. The Mod team here consists of some of the most hardcore player collectors out there and will be a fair judge. Since non-cards items are not a must have they will be looked as essentially extra credit for lack of a better term.

--Applications are to be sent to any Mod and need to include:

1. Player name?
2. Total cards owned/Total cards player has(one of each, no doubles for this count).
3. Any other collection statistics?
4. Link to web site? ( Web Site Must have a TEXT based want or have list of your player, photobucket have lists are not accepted, it is just too hard for someone looking for a card you need to run thru an entire photobucket site, text is just much easier)
5. Non-card items owned?

--If you happen to get turned down as a SC you may reapply once a month maximum.

We here know that player collectors have very different ideas of what a SC is, some of this even depends on who they collect and how they like to collect. We also know this is a subject that tends to create controversy. We want to try this out, have some fun with it and offer something a little different for our great members here!

Taliasen
12-16-2006, 05:27 AM
Can or will there be multiple "Super Collectors" of the same player? For example "robe024", "RyanL24", and myself all have pretty large collections of Rickey Henderson. Also can a member be a Super Collector of more than one player?
Tim

mets197
12-16-2006, 05:53 AM
Sounds like a cool Idea, PM sent

Mark Wing
12-16-2006, 07:24 AM
Can or will there be multiple "Super Collectors" of the same player? For example "robe024", "RyanL24", and myself all have pretty large collections of Rickey Henderson. Also can a member be a Super Collector of more than one player?
Tim

We are limiting it to one player per member, but not one member per player.

Mark

jaxbraves
12-16-2006, 08:29 AM
I like the idea although I never consider myself a super collector.
Should there be a minimum number of cards required ?
Would it make a difference on how many auto's or gu you had. ?

Pronk
12-16-2006, 11:11 AM
love the idea!

premium1981
12-16-2006, 12:10 PM
I like the idea although I never consider myself a super collector.
Should there be a minimum number of cards required ?
Would it make a difference on how many auto's or gu you had. ?


There is no minimum number of cards required, but low numbers will probably not be accepted. And ofcourse the autos and GU make a big difference. All aspects of a collection will be looked at.

mrmopar
12-16-2006, 12:43 PM
I just looked at the player collections section and about half of the names are bold. Is this what you are talking about with the font size? It appears anyone who is bolded has ALL of their player collection selections bolded (more than one player per member).

I'm not organized enough yet to qualify for this, but I think you all know who the biggest collector of my guy is anyway!

bzickefoose1
12-16-2006, 12:50 PM
I just looked at the player collections section and about half of the names are bold. Is this what you are talking about with the font size? It appears anyone who is bolded has ALL of their player collection selections bolded (more than one player per member).

I'm not organized enough yet to qualify for this, but I think you all know who the biggest collector of my guy is anyway!

I think those are just HOF members. I think maybe those names should go back to the original font or something when the "super collector" names are bolded.

DSuponski
12-16-2006, 01:44 PM
will be sending a PM shorty

smt1192
12-16-2006, 01:54 PM
How and when will you know if you are accepted?

worldwideed
12-16-2006, 02:06 PM
Subscribed to so I don't froget to do this tonight.

premium1981
12-16-2006, 02:59 PM
How and when will you know if you are accepted?


The mod team will be voting on submissions and we will let you know if you are accepted.

Meliah
12-16-2006, 04:39 PM
After reviewing a lot of applications I would like to say some things. Please follow the simple application questions, I really don't think they are confusing:)

This one here seems to be giving people the most trouble.--

2. Total cards owned/Total cards player has(one of each, no doubles for this count).

I'll use my man Choi as an example.
He has 512 cards and I own 395 of those=Collection-395/512=77.1%

Some people seem to list doubles as cards they own because they are #'d cards and are stamped different numbers. I'm sorry but those are doubles and not part of the collection. If they were you would have to do this--if you collect anything of a person and are trying for the Print Run you need to add in the number of cards that are made to the total number. For example, here is Choi again.

Collection-395/512=77.1%

But if I was trying for all of his #'d cards I would have a much bigger number ahead of me--

Regular Numbered Print Run-492/37618=1.3%

I hope that made sense:)

pac_rat_76
12-16-2006, 04:45 PM
Somewhere on here someone was nice enough to explain how to go to Beckett and search for a specific player and bring up a CL of the cards that are out there for that player. I can not find where! :(

Can someone give me a refresher course?

slavlite
12-16-2006, 04:48 PM
I do it by going thru My Collections. Click add to collection. When the search wizard comes up I use search for specific player. I the type in Maddux, Greg and leave all other fields blank, This brings up a complete list of Maddux cards from 86 - 06

premium1981
12-16-2006, 05:11 PM
I would also like to add that hopefully no one will get upset if we say no to your collection. That isnt saying that you do not have a nice collection, but we are being strict with our standards. To be a super collector you really have a work at your collection. It shouldnt be something you can obtain by casually collecting cards of a player you like. It takes time and effort to build up these stats.

Phishmon23
12-16-2006, 05:28 PM
I'm a huge Mattingly collector and I ONLY have my GU and Auto's inventoried. I have well over 1000 unique Mattingly cards. Would the fact that I don't have a complete list of what Mattingly cards I own eliminate me from SC status?

-Jason

premium1981
12-16-2006, 05:30 PM
Would the fact that I don't have a complete list of what Mattingly cards I own eliminate me from SC status?

-Jason


Yes, I believe it would. Since the whole collection is being taken into consideration 1,000 cards not listed would probably keep you out. It gives you something to work towards though.;)

JJJ5278
12-16-2006, 06:15 PM
YES!!! My application will be coming in soon, lol. Need to inventory my non-card items and finish adding my newest additions to the collection!!! I love the idea, lol.

Loyalty32
12-16-2006, 10:10 PM
Meliah - On #5, are you looking for a total count on non-card items owned or a list of the items we do own?

Thanks
Craig

slavlite
12-16-2006, 10:17 PM
Craig- A list will do fine

Meliah
12-16-2006, 10:20 PM
Meliah - On #5, are you looking for a total count on non-card items owned or a list of the items we do own?

Thanks
Craig

List would be better since everyone seems to find some really unique items to add to thier collections, plus it's fun to look at:)

Loyalty32
12-16-2006, 10:27 PM
Thanks! I'll submit mine sometime on Sunday.

Thanks
Craig

ragtop12
12-16-2006, 10:59 PM
Mine is submitted :) Hope to be a Bonds SC soon :p

JJJ5278
12-16-2006, 11:12 PM
My application is submitted. It was nice having to count some of the non-card items and pulling them out again to look at them. Hope I am picked as an Edgerrin supercollector. If not, look for my application next month w/ better numbers, lol. Thanks for the chance and it is a neat/fun idea.

Glassmcr1981
12-17-2006, 12:28 AM
Really a cool idea! I submitted my app, I'm crossing my fingers!!

mrmopar
12-17-2006, 12:55 AM
I'll add this while the idea is still fresh. My opinion is you can't be a super collector unless you collect just about EVERYTHING! I'm sure I will get much opposition to this, especially considering the newer collectors (The older players have a weath of oddball stuff that seems to have almost disappeared in todays collecting world, leaving just cards to collect). The term has become overused much the same way rare has. The term "super" defines the level of collecting in this case and you can't even meet those requirements because you have 50 GU, 30 1/1s, 100 autos and 80% of the cards made... if you ignore whole other areas of collectibles. I am not saying you would have to get EVERYTHING possible (if Ty had made a Garvey Beanie Bear, I highly doubt I would have wanted it), but most "super collectors" don't even touch the oddball stuff these days. You are not necessarily a super collector if you collect a guy you like and you have a large number of his cards, but ignore things like buttons, bobbleheads, posters, figures, etc. Maybe you are a "Super Card Collector", but certainly not an overall "Super Collector".

I'm sure this will be received poorly, but I think this is one idea that should be scrapped (or modified) before it takes off. My apologies to the author of this idea, but as many of my ideas have been received similarily, this one ain't great! The site trying to define a super collector and then linking it to trade functions is a disappointment waiting to happen. I mean how are you no longer a super collector if your trade rating drops to 4.9? How can you not be a super collector if you only have 18 completed trades? Lastly, can you really be denied super collector status if your guy only has 13 items and you have them all because your collection is deemed too small?

My thought is if you want to recognize player collectors in some special way and relate it to a trade function, then call it something else. Call it something like Player Collector Specialist or Star Player Collector and leave the "Super Collector" designation to those who self-proclaim it, deserving or not.

Champs96ws
12-17-2006, 01:03 AM
We look at the entire body of work that someone has put into the collection. All your points have already been taken into account. You would be surprised how many people will be turned down the first time around.

If someone can be self proclaimed "super collector" then I'm sure the site can identify who we feel is a true "super collector" :)

premium1981
12-17-2006, 01:06 AM
I mean how are you no longer a super collector if your trade rating drops to 4.9? How can you not be a super collector if you only have 18 completed trades?


The limitations are not because we dont think the person is qualified. But this idea is for established traders who do the things the way they should be doing them. This is a PERK and nothing more. And perks should be earned (hence the excluding new members) and perks should go to quality members. I dont think someone who is flakey should be given perks. If a member doesnt not care enough to send out trades in a timely matter they should not be eligible for any extras the site offers. Same things with condition, etc. If you send someone a card that is not in good shape (without telling them) you should be held accountable. As stated above, this is just a perk. It doesnt add or take away from anyones collection.

Meliah
12-17-2006, 01:16 AM
My thought is if you want to recognize player collectors in some special way and relate it to a trade function, then call it something else. Call it something like Player Collector Specialist or Star Player Collector and leave the "Super Collector" designation to those who self-proclaim it, deserving or not.


Steffan already said most of the stuff I would've but I'll add this. What the heck does it matter what we call it? There is NO defined definition of Super Collector so saying you're a Super Collector, a Player Collector Specialist or the Supreme Ruler of All Cards Pujols that I Survey can be no difference.


My apologies to the author of this idea, but as many of my ideas have been received similarily, this one ain't great!

You're entitled to your opinion but this makes it sounds like you're just dumping on me because you're sour about other stuff.

mrmopar
12-17-2006, 01:31 AM
Man, it didn't take long for you guys to jump on this one and defend the idea!!! It's just an opinion...

I didn't know who's idea it was and was not looking to make anyone mad. I support most of what the Bench does and think the site is fantastic, but I just wasn't warm and fuzzy about this one. I offered a counterpoint because as usual all of the feedback was glowing. I sometimes think people won't offer differing opinions because of this. I am not sour over anything, by the way.

I'd love to see the submissions though. As I said before, I think the term "super collector" is overused and I look forward to seeing who the staff feels deserves the designation and hopefully those collections are highlighted in some way.

Meliah
12-17-2006, 01:37 AM
You should read some of the PM's I get in--you'll see not everyone has glowing things to say about the site or myself:)

Nobody is jumping on you, we have a right to our opinions as well.

This SC thing here was my idea so I might tend to defend it more than most. Judging from the amount of responses we've had from this in only one day I would say that it's at least popular so far and that is what I wanted the most. Something fun for our members and unique from the other trading sites out there(until they steal this idea like they try to steal some of our other stuff!).

mrmopar
12-17-2006, 01:45 AM
I hope they are from people who are trouble makers to begin with, as I have yet to see anything that would cause me concern over the site or the people here. It's usually the trouble makers who cry the loudest when they are called out for their actions! For instance, I am sure you get an earful from anyone who gets the boot.

Off the subject, but I came across a funny picture today going through some Garvey stuff that you might appreciate. It was from a magazine and had this odd cartoon picture of Garvey where he appeared to be skipping along. Guess who's cartoon mug was tucked away in the corner of the picture...none other than Leon Durham!


You should read some of the PM's I get in--you'll see not everyone has glowing things to say about the site or myself:)

Meliah
12-17-2006, 01:54 AM
I hope they are from people who are trouble makers to begin with, as I have yet to see anything that would cause me concern over the site or the people here. It's usually the trouble makers who cry the loudest when they are called out for their actions! For instance, I am sure you get an earful from anyone who gets the boot.

Off the subject, but I came across a funny picture today going through some Garvey stuff that you might appreciate. It was from a magazine and had this odd cartoon picture of Garvey where he appeared to be skipping along. Guess who's cartoon mug was tucked away in the corner of the picture...none other than Leon Durham!

I don't read the Emails I get from booted members anymore, they never contained anything except for swearing and name calling really:rolleyes:

I bet that cartoon has something to do with the 1984 playoffs. You know I hate Garvey right?:) I was listening to WGN nightly sports show and the Cubs fan on there was talking about all the people he hated being a Cubs fan--The Mets, Cardinals, Will Clark and the Giants and of course the Padres and Garvey. He said last year Garvey came in for a interview and was introducing himself to everyone. He came up to the Cubs fan(forgot his name now!) who shok his hand and said "You know I hate you" right to his face. Garvey replied with, "Must be a Cubs fan then":D

bzickefoose1
12-17-2006, 02:00 AM
When I started the thread a few months ago that I believe helped get this whole thing rolling, the problem was that under the Player Collectors tab here on the Bench, people had ten or twenty players listed and the list wasn't much help for potential trades.

The idea was to be able to distinguish between the real player collectors and those collectors who listed players they simply didn't mind having cards of.

I don't think anybody's goal was to call out the SUPER COLLECTIONS of SUPER COLLECTORS, I think it was simply to distinguish. (EDIT). (EDIT).

Please keep in mind that people collecting retired/non-HOF guys like Steve Garvey require nowhere near the Paypal balance of someone collecting Nolan Ryan or Sandberg. I know Ryan has over 7,000 cards and Sandberg has 3,100, but a quick Garvey search shows barely 1,000. Not only does Sandberg have 3x more stuff, but it books exactly 4x more than Garvey. Basically, for every $1 you put into your collection, I would have to put in $12 to keep up with you percentage wise.

Your collection is super - nobody is doubting that - but just because some of us are trying to collect harder players doesn't mean we shouldn't get perks if chosen.

I'm just rambling at this point, but you get the idea.....

Meliah
12-17-2006, 02:02 AM
bzickefoose1--C'mon man, edit that post and be polite. Everyone is allowed to express their opinions. That comment of yours is uncalled for and rude. This is exactly how that post you're talking about got WAY out of hand.

bzickefoose1
12-17-2006, 02:07 AM
bzickefoose1--C'mon man, edit that post and be polite. Everyone is allowed to express their opinions. That comment of yours is uncalled for and rude. This is exactly how that post you're talking about got WAY out of hand.

Maybe it wasn't the nicest thing yo say, but look what I was responding to:


I'd love to see the submissions though. As I said before, I think the term "super collector" is overused and I look forward to seeing who the staff feels deserves the designation and hopefully those collections are highlighted in some way.

He's getting ready to laugh at collections that simply don't measure up to his. I see that as a pretty arrogant comment and I don't think anyone has his back on that one.

Meliah
12-17-2006, 02:10 AM
Maybe it wasn't the nicest thing yo say, but look what I was responding to:



He's getting ready to laugh at collections that simply don't measure up to his. I see that as a pretty arrogant comment and I don't think anyone has his back on that one.

One thing that everyone can agree on is almost everyone's definition of a SC is different. While I don't agree with his opinion it doesn't mean he's not allowed to have one. Personally I think you're reading into his comments a bit too much because I don't see them at all the way you do.

Taliasen
12-17-2006, 09:15 AM
Wow, I can see this could get bad really quick. My only hope is that my submission/collection is judged on its own merrit by itself and not compared to another collection of a similar or same player, same # of cards available of a player, or same $ value. I would hate for a collection of any one player to be considered the benchmark and standard by which all other collections are judged to be worthy or not worthy by. It is not all about who has the deepest pockets and can afford all the uber rare cards. For me it is about the passion of collecting. I am certainly not into this for an investment. My two favorite players will never fetch the $ a Pujols, A-Rod, Jeter, or a Bonds collection will. I collect who I collect because I really like the player, I like to see the new card designs and how the industry has advanced over the past 25 years, it is fun to view and change the presentation and display of my entire collection, and meet other collecters and hopefully other collectors who collect the same player that we can help each other out. (Thank you Brian and "the Bench".) I am really happy for Brian to reach "Super Collector" status because he deserves it and am proud because I know I have helped him out a little. Not as near as much as he has helped me though! :D
I would just hate to see people get offended and potentially leave this wonderful site because someone's opinion of their collection is different. Just for the record, I am one of the people who is a "self-proclaimed" super collector on my site. I seriously doubt I will stop using that term or stop calling myself one here even if my collection is not deemed worthy by someone else.
Tim

ArodYanksFan
12-17-2006, 12:18 PM
Let me know if I should even bother to submit something. I have been collecting Tino Martinez GU and Auto Cards. Thats really all I collect of him. But I have most of them and they are worth a lot of money. I just dont spend the time to collect his $0.10 cards because I want to focus on his Big Dollar cards. I might only have 40 of his GU and Autos but he doesnt have more them 70 out there. LMK what you guys think. Thanks

JJJ5278
12-17-2006, 12:34 PM
I was pretty hyped by this idea b/c I feel I am a supercollector. I do try to get anything I can of Edgerrin James including bobbleheads, SLU, McFarlanes, magazine covers, etc...I had no idea people would try to bash this b/c I saw it as something FUN and thats all it should be. Sometimes finding certain base cards is harder than finding that "rare #'d to 50 GU". Not too many people list base cards anywhere but it seems I have already seen 15 of the Edgerrin Ultimate Collection patches #'d out of 50 but can't find his 05 UD Portraits base card anywhere, thats part of the FUN, the hunt for the harder to find cards that shouldn't be. lol. Oh well I am still excited about the idea and can't wait to see what happens w/ it. I guess some people are mad already that they won't make the cut, instead of just trying to have fun w/ it.

pac_rat_76
12-17-2006, 03:57 PM
Some people simply don't have deep enough pockets to make the cut (me being one of them). :)

smt1192
12-17-2006, 04:01 PM
Some people simply don't have deep enough pockets to make the cut (me being one of them). :)

Same here

Mark Wing
12-17-2006, 04:32 PM
You don't need to have deep pockets to make the cut. You just need to be serious about collecting your guy. This isn't a contest of whose collection is bigger. In my mind, someone can't make a case that they are a super collector when they need a ton of easy base card type hits but are actively trading for other things.

Mark

JJJ5278
12-17-2006, 04:36 PM
I haven't spent much at all. I haven't spent more than 30% of book value on any of the Edge cards I own. I have traded for or pulled the majority of them. Maybe its easier for me b/c Edge is only considered an unlisted star though.

pac_rat_76
12-17-2006, 04:43 PM
You don't need to have deep pockets to make the cut. You just need to be serious about collecting your guy. This isn't a contest of whose collection is bigger. In my mind, someone can't make a case that they are a super collector when they need a ton of easy base card type hits but are actively trading for other things.

Mark

Very true, but I still think it has something to do with how much you are capable of spending. I understand where you are coming from on the base cards, but I think a lot of this is based on game used/autos/and other higher dollar items that the person may have of that player.

Ebay costs money, trades cost money, buying packs costs money, having trade bait costs money! It is only my opinion, but I think you are eliminating some truly great player collectors only because they don't have the financial resources to be considered a "Super Collector".

JamesNevans
12-17-2006, 04:50 PM
When I get a particularly rare or valuable card it would be nice to know who would really appreciate it and might bend over backwards to find out what I really want and not just have to pick over a trade list. I know everybody holds back their best stuff, as well they should, as many people would just gravitate to those items.

It'd sure be nice if I knew who the real Chipper Jones collector was for the $40 gu/26 I have for him, or the early $60 Jason Kidd parallel for the Kidd supercollector.

theguru14
12-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Or the space to collect other items other than cards.


Some people simply don't have deep enough pockets to make the cut (me being one of them). :)

bigalbert
12-17-2006, 08:41 PM
Although I will not qualify on this site because I havent done many trades(I've picked up the pace a little and have a few in the works) I consider myself a super collector and all I collect is cards. I believe you can be a super collector even if all you collect are cards. I recently won the player collectors contest on the beckett boards(21 and over) with this entry-auto's etc. (http://www.beckettanime.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1218459) Enjoy and I'll be entering as soon as I'm eligible.

Loyalty32
12-17-2006, 08:48 PM
Although I will not qualify on this site because I havent done many trades(I've picked up the pace a little and have a few in the works) I consider myself a super collector and all I collect is cards. I believe you can be a super collector even if all you collect are cards. I recently won the player collectors contest on the beckett boards(21 and over) with this entry-auto's etc. (http://www.beckettanime.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1218459) Enjoy and I'll be entering as soon as I'm eligible.

I don't think you will have any problem getting in as soon as you put in a little work around here. :D

Thanks
Craig

*Welcome by the way!

JJJ5278
12-17-2006, 08:52 PM
Although I will not qualify on this site because I havent done many trades(I've picked up the pace a little and have a few in the works) I consider myself a super collector and all I collect is cards. I believe you can be a super collector even if all you collect are cards. I recently won the player collectors contest on the beckett boards(21 and over) with this entry-auto's etc. (http://www.beckettanime.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1218459) Enjoy and I'll be entering as soon as I'm eligible.

uhhhh...WOW. Thats about all I can say, that is an incredible collection of a very high $$ guy to collect. Congratulations on putting that collection together.

dragonslayer913
12-17-2006, 09:13 PM
my thing with the main player i collect (Salmon) alot of his stuff
especially 1/1's print plates very seldom appear on ebay,and if
they do they normally sell for in the $40-$50 range,players like
Jeter/pujols and other high end players have 1,000 of cards on
ebay at countless times,which makes it easier for a person to
get there cards,being in the nw part of pennsylvania and pirates
and pirates everywhere,and trying to collect a player who plays
for a american league west team,i rarely attend shows well because
there really aren't any worth attending and ask a dealer do you have
any Tim Salmon cards available and they look at you with a who is
that ,i mostly like to trade for my Salmon collecting needs,although
i have bought probably 15% of what i have i purchased.i like to think
i am a super-collector because i have some hard to get parallels and
some off the wall stuff,and i am the only person on this site who
collects Salmon religiously:D

Taliasen
12-17-2006, 09:14 PM
Although I will not qualify on this site because I havent done many trades(I've picked up the pace a little and have a few in the works) I consider myself a super collector and all I collect is cards. I believe you can be a super collector even if all you collect are cards. I recently won the player collectors contest on the beckett boards(21 and over) with this entry-auto's etc. (http://www.beckettanime.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1218459) Enjoy and I'll be entering as soon as I'm eligible.

Yeah, wow. Awesome collection!
Tim

chappy31
12-17-2006, 09:34 PM
This is an awesome idea, now if i can just take out DM & Guru I can get that Marino title..LOL!!

theguru14
12-17-2006, 09:48 PM
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p


This is an awesome idea, now if i can just take out DM & Guru I can get that Marino title..LOL!!

mrmopar
12-17-2006, 10:25 PM
I support player collections of all sizes and meant only that I would like the opportunity to see what is coming in for consideration, that's it! I love looking at people's collections. I have several great sites featuring collections bookmarked!! It was not a dirty shot at those collections I feel are beneath mine. In fact, nobody really knows what my collection is like other than a few comments and a couple of random scans. I have not shared the collection in it's entirety to anyone. I don't announce my percentage owned in my signature. I don't keep a running count of what I have in general. I just know in my head for the most part if I need something, and sometimes I end up with dupes because I was WRONG!! Not that I mind a few dupes here and there. I don't proclaim my Steve Garvey collection to be the collection to beat all collections, nor am I concerned that I or anyone else will be crowned Super Collector of his items.

My original concern with this idea was that some people (maybe many more than I would have guessed, based on the feedback I am getting) will be disappointed with the decision and their collections will not quality based only on the qualifications stated even though they may have fantastic collections. I was not discounting personal collections, but rather the fact they were being judged by narrow guidelines. That' s all, not trying to stir the pot. Just wanted to share my opinion.


Maybe it wasn't the nicest thing yo say, but look what I was responding to:



He's getting ready to laugh at collections that simply don't measure up to his. I see that as a pretty arrogant comment and I don't think anyone has his back on that one.

worldwideed
12-17-2006, 10:26 PM
I still don't know that we have defined Supercollector or if we are even trying too/need too.

Each collection is judged on it's own merit. It doesn't matter how hard it is to get certain card versus some other player collectors cards. It doesn't make ones collection more complete. What if I only collected Ty Cobb vintage stuff but only had the budget to purchase one $700 card? Can I get voted in at 1/160 just because I have a low budget or high competition for cards? No, of course not.

mrmopar
12-17-2006, 10:31 PM
That is an exceptional collection. I am especially jealous of the 92 Elite Signature card, one I have wanted for a long time and have still not found at "my price". I have all of the other special Elite cards from that era (91-93) except Cal!

I assume you don't have a site to display those. Check this one out http://www.gracecollector.com/, as your collection would look superior displayed this way or in a similar fashion. I wish I had the technical "know how" to do one like it myself.


Although I will not qualify on this site because I havent done many trades(I've picked up the pace a little and have a few in the works) I consider myself a super collector and all I collect is cards. I believe you can be a super collector even if all you collect are cards. I recently won the player collectors contest on the beckett boards(21 and over) with this entry-auto's etc. (http://www.beckettanime.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1218459) Enjoy and I'll be entering as soon as I'm eligible.

will22clark
12-18-2006, 01:09 AM
hey,good idea! now i just need 12 more trades to even be considered.I think this will defintetly give a big boost to the player collectors # of cards for their player. Anyone up for a trade?

weegee
12-18-2006, 01:38 AM
i just want to know what it really takes to be a "sc" i posted my Trot Nixon collection i have over 200 base cards (21%) and 31 different gu/autos 39 if ount doubles i have a 8x10 photo autographed and a baseball autographed i just got a bobble head i have 3 more autos coming soon including a 1/1 (my first for him) i thought that having that many cards of him would get me the title as trot nixon super collector since i didnt see others with that much stuff of his. Im from maine and its hard finding his cards but this site has helped alot in 1 year and 1 month i went from 3 base cards to what i have now with help with card shops and shows

Meliah
12-18-2006, 03:16 AM
Very true, but I still think it has something to do with how much you are capable of spending. I understand where you are coming from on the base cards, but I think a lot of this is based on game used/autos/and other higher dollar items that the person may have of that player.

Ebay costs money, trades cost money, buying packs costs money, having trade bait costs money! It is only my opinion, but I think you are eliminating some truly great player collectors only because they don't have the financial resources to be considered a "Super Collector".

It's true that this hobby costs money but here is an example for you. I collect Negro League cards from any player. So far that list is up to 108 players of which I have acquired 395 cards--I have only bought 50 of those cards(2 sets from Ebay). All the rest came from trades or freebies people sent out.

I also think that people are passing judgement a bit early. Only three SC's have been announced so far. I'm kind of spreading out the announcements due to my time and the voting process. I think you'll see a decent range of collections that make it to SC.

Plus, it's not like we can run obtain financial records to see what people can or can't opend on cards:)

Meliah
12-18-2006, 03:19 AM
i just want to know what it really takes to be a "sc" i posted my Trot Nixon collection i have over 200 base cards (21%) and 31 different gu/autos 39 if ount doubles i have a 8x10 photo autographed and a baseball autographed i just got a bobble head i have 3 more autos coming soon including a 1/1 (my first for him) i thought that having that many cards of him would get me the title as trot nixon super collector since i didnt see others with that much stuff of his. Im from maine and its hard finding his cards but this site has helped alot in 1 year and 1 month i went from 3 base cards to what i have now with help with card shops and shows

One thing is we don't compare your collection to other Nixon collector's, we judge each collection on it's own merits. If you'll look in the General Talk forum and read the posts for the three SC's you can see some highlights from their collections. You have a very good collection but you may see some differences between yours and theirs.

Matt Studinski
12-18-2006, 08:26 AM
Although I will not qualify on this site because I havent done many trades(I've picked up the pace a little and have a few in the works) I consider myself a super collector and all I collect is cards. I believe you can be a super collector even if all you collect are cards. I recently won the player collectors contest on the beckett boards(21 and over) with this entry-auto's etc. (http://www.beckettanime.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1218459) Enjoy and I'll be entering as soon as I'm eligible.

Now that's impressive...

Matt

HoosierBuddy
12-18-2006, 10:46 AM
I think someone mentioned making the SuperCollectors stand out a little more from the current HOF bold status. What about changing the font color for the SC's? Make the SC members red, or blue or something. Just a thought.

cubfan131
12-18-2006, 11:22 AM
I think someone mentioned making the SuperCollectors stand out a little more from the current HOF bold status. What about changing the font color for the SC's? Make the SC members red, or blue or something. Just a thought.

I agree. Just scrolling through the list of player collectors it is hard to see who is a super collector. Users who have all caps in their username look like supercollectors. Maybe a separate list at the end of the supercollectors and who they collect.

Loyalty32
12-18-2006, 11:43 AM
I think someone mentioned making the SuperCollectors stand out a little more from the current HOF bold status. What about changing the font color for the SC's? Make the SC members red, or blue or something. Just a thought.

I think I like that idea.

Thanks
Craig

Dalberov
12-18-2006, 12:20 PM
Now THAT'S a Super Collector. Thanks for sharing it mrmopar.
Dave
That is an exceptional collection. I am especially jealous of the 92 Elite Signature card, one I have wanted for a long time and have still not found at "my price". I have all of the other special Elite cards from that era (91-93) except Cal!

I assume you don't have a site to display those. Check this one out http://www.gracecollector.com/, as your collection would look superior displayed this way or in a similar fashion. I wish I had the technical "know how" to do one like it myself.

superpieman
12-18-2006, 01:39 PM
you guys will be getting my application for my ernie banks collection tonight when i get home. thanks

Spiff
12-18-2006, 02:41 PM
Kind of an off the wall question. If I submit a collection and it gets turned down is there any way to find out how close it came to qualifying? If so I might have a better idea of when to resubmit it rather than wasting everyone's time by resubmitting a collection that is way out of contention.

premium1981
12-18-2006, 02:45 PM
Kind of an off the wall question. If I submit a collection and it gets turned down is there any way to find out how close it came to qualifying? If so I might have a better idea of when to resubmit it rather than wasting everyone's time by resubmitting a collection that is way out of contention.


We are not using set standards for voting because there are so many variables in player collecting. What I would recommend to anyone who got turned down is to look at some of the collections that were accepted and compare. If you have a smaller percentage of total cards, then try and raise it some. If you do not have many GU, then try to add some more. Same things with autos, etc. Also, to anyone turning these applications in, make sure you have a wantlist or havelist. You will not be considered without one.

jdalton32
12-18-2006, 04:29 PM
I Have Every Whitehurst Card That Has Come Out So Far
Over 50 Diffrent Autos/game Used
Over 50 Diffrent Rookie Cards Includeing Paralels
Does That Count?

slavlite
12-18-2006, 04:34 PM
I Have Every Whitehurst Card That Has Come Out So Far
Over 50 Diffrent Autos/game Used
Over 50 Diffrent Rookie Cards Includeing Paralels
Does That Count?

From The first post in this Thread:

Since this is a trade tool you need to have an up-to-date want or have list of the player, must have 20 completed trades and a 5.0 Trader Rating!

ragtop12
12-18-2006, 06:31 PM
Suggestion for distinguishing the supercollectors... how about just adding the title above the avatar and below the name... example, mine would be:

ragtop12
H.O.F.
Barry Bonds Supercollector (or Barry Bonds SC) or somehting like that
Then my picture of the avatar

Just a suggestion.
Obed

Spiff
12-18-2006, 06:37 PM
We are not using set standards for voting because there are so many variables in player collecting. What I would recommend to anyone who got turned down is to look at some of the collections that were accepted and compare. If you have a smaller percentage of total cards, then try and raise it some. If you do not have many GU, then try to add some more. Same things with autos, etc. Also, to anyone turning these applications in, make sure you have a wantlist or havelist. You will not be considered without one.

Ok, sound advice. I am not sure I was clear in my question. Will we be able to get a vote percentage or count like in MLB HOF voting? If I missed by one vote and added 25 cards I might try again the next month. If I missed by all but one vote I would probably wait close to a year and try to significantly improve my numbers before resubmitting.

Mark Wing
12-18-2006, 06:52 PM
Suggestion for distinguishing the supercollectors... how about just adding the title above the avatar and below the name... example, mine would be:

ragtop12
H.O.F.
Barry Bonds Supercollector (or Barry Bonds SC) or somehting like that
Then my picture of the avatar

Just a suggestion.
Obed

It is a possibility. I need to figure out how to do it without adding additional overhead.

Mark

Dark_Angel
12-18-2006, 10:26 PM
Application sent to Meliah :)

Thanks!

ragtop12
12-18-2006, 10:43 PM
It is a possibility. I need to figure out how to do it without adding additional overhead.

Mark

OK, was just a thought. I will leave it up to you to figure out how to do it though, lol. I am just reteaching myself computer languages and I do not want to even think about how a site like this operates :) What ever happened to COBOL and BASIC, lol. Now I am trying to learn Java and more advance features in HTML, igh. And this is what I do when I am not trading cards on the Bench :p

mrmopar
12-18-2006, 10:51 PM
Hold on now, let's give credit where due...that is NOT mine. I was just commenting on his (bigalbert) collection. I'm a Garvey fan myself!!


Now THAT'S a Super Collector. Thanks for sharing it mrmopar.
Dave

mrmopar
12-18-2006, 10:55 PM
This is just tossing out an idea, not knowing how much would be involved in making it happen OR if there would even be interest, but could an avatar of the subject player be made/used and if so, would people prefer that over a logo?

For example, Loyalty would now have an Avatar with Dawson's portrait on it. Ragtop would have Bonds, etc.

Unless that breaks licensing rules for using a players image, that might be a cool little way to seperate them from the pack.

premium1981
12-19-2006, 12:37 AM
This is just tossing out an idea, not knowing how much would be involved in making it happen OR if there would even be interest, but could an avatar of the subject player be made/used and if so, would people prefer that over a logo?

For example, Loyalty would now have an Avatar with Dawson's portrait on it. Ragtop would have Bonds, etc.

Unless that breaks licensing rules for using a players image, that might be a cool little way to seperate them from the pack.


I actually like that idea. Not sure how doable it is. Mark would have to answer that question for you.

Meliah
12-19-2006, 01:46 AM
This is just tossing out an idea, not knowing how much would be involved in making it happen OR if there would even be interest, but could an avatar of the subject player be made/used and if so, would people prefer that over a logo?

For example, Loyalty would now have an Avatar with Dawson's portrait on it. Ragtop would have Bonds, etc.

Unless that breaks licensing rules for using a players image, that might be a cool little way to seperate them from the pack.

Actually avatars are not an option which is why we are trying for banners. Too many resource problems could occur with the special avatars--plus the problems it would cause with everybody wanting special avatars.

mrmopar
12-19-2006, 01:52 AM
You'd love to have that special Hector Villanueva avatar, wouldn't you!? HA!!

Well, the idea sounded good inside my head, but I am no computer guru so I didn't know the implications of trying to make it work outside of my head!!

Meliah
12-19-2006, 01:59 AM
You'd love to have that special Hector Villanueva avatar, wouldn't you!? HA!!

Well, the idea sounded good inside my head, but I am no computer guru so I didn't know the implications of trying to make it work outside of my head!!

Nor do I, that's why I listen to everything Mark tells me:)

I don't think Hector would fit in an avatar! He was kind of a rolly polly type of guy.

bzickefoose1
12-19-2006, 01:59 AM
<img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/drlittle/hector.jpg">

"Stop making fun of me!!" Hector said.

mrmopar
12-19-2006, 02:00 AM
You know, I got to thinking today. I was sorting out some of my Frank Thomas collection last weekend while organizing (still!!) and had I kept the cards in order, I could be a Thomas Super Collector by now! Anyone send in the stats for him yet?

I had EVERYTHING they made with The Big Hurt's name and photo on it for a while there. By '98, I had found ebay and was spending less on boxes and at shows as ebay sucked me in deeper. That is when I rediscovered Garvey. I let Frank dwindle away like a forgotten toy:( I have since revived the Hurt collection here and there, but most of my energy/resources are into auto cards and Garvey.

Maybe as I am scanning things, I will share the highlites of the F.T. collection. Who else picked up that Rap CD of his????? Mine is signed!!!

I gotta reserve the SC option for my bro Garvey if I get organized enough.

mrmopar
12-19-2006, 02:02 AM
Hey, that's one of them there rare traded cards, ain't it?

I can tell my the prison orange jumpsuit borders!!!

<img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/drlittle/hector.jpg">

"Stop making fun of me!!" Hector said.

Meliah
12-19-2006, 02:06 AM
<img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/drlittle/hector.jpg">

"Stop making fun of me!!" Hector said.

Ok, you made that post WAY too fast after my last response, you're a closet Hector collector aren't you?:)

bzickefoose1
12-19-2006, 02:10 AM
Ok, you made that post WAY too fast after my last response, you're a closet Hector collector aren't you?:)

Haha, it was a response to the more neutral comment about Hector, but it played out perfectly after your insult!:D

Gotta love Google image search!

chappy31
12-19-2006, 04:28 PM
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p

LMAO, I knew you'd see that, I'm just in awe *knelling* in the presence of greatness:D

Yanks21
12-20-2006, 01:54 AM
Is there anyone out there who in their own minds think they are a Super Collector of a certain player BUT......... only collect that player in a certain uniform?? Does this exist? I have a Paul O'neill collection that is above average but I only collect him in a Yankees uniform. I do have a lot of his Reds cards but kept seperate. I never collected him in his Reds stuff but overtime in buying lots and making trades I did manage to get plenty of his Reds cards but I do not have them included in my inventory? Just a thought.

bzickefoose1
12-20-2006, 02:12 AM
Is there anyone out there who in their own minds think they are a Super Collector of a certain player BUT......... only collect that player in a certain uniform?? Does this exist? I have a Paul O'neill collection that is above average but I only collect him in a Yankees uniform. I do have a lot of his Reds cards but kept seperate. I never collected him in his Reds stuff but overtime in buying lots and making trades I did manage to get plenty of his Reds cards but I do not have them included in my inventory? Just a thought.

I felt the same way about my Dawson and Grace collections, but I ended up forgetting to make sure incoming cards were in a Cubs uni so many times that I finally decided to make them a part of my collection.

I guess you could be called "Paul O'Neil Supercollector - kind of".

;)

Spiff
12-20-2006, 01:20 PM
One more quick question. Will we be notified only if designated a super collector or will we know if we didn't make it as well?

premium1981
12-20-2006, 01:25 PM
One more quick question. Will we be notified only if designated a super collector or will we know if we didn't make it as well?


You will be notified either way.

MrBlackisBack
12-20-2006, 08:31 PM
Is there any specific turnaround for applications?

Meliah
12-21-2006, 01:29 AM
Is there any specific turnaround for applications?

Nothing set in stone though we do try to get voting done as quickly as possible. I'm also spreading out the SC announcements so each person can get a little "time in the sun" instead of announcing 20 in one day:)

klofton7
12-21-2006, 01:46 PM
Matt,
I just sent a PM for my Kenny Lofton collection to be considered.

Thanks,
Casey:D

Loyalty32
12-21-2006, 04:34 PM
I like the new little thingy?

Thanks
Craig

premium1981
12-21-2006, 04:37 PM
I like the new little thingy?

Thanks
Craig

Was that a question or a comment?:D

Loyalty32
12-21-2006, 04:43 PM
Was that a question or a comment?:D

I had to tell myself that this is a family site..........:D

To be honest I wasn't really sure what to call it so I went with "thingy". Probably not the best word for it but........

ragtop12
12-21-2006, 05:22 PM
I like it too :)

ragtop12
12-21-2006, 05:23 PM
Now I wish I can get a second one. :) Having over 1000 dofferent Dean Plamer items and only needing 25 or so known items would want me to be a SC for him, but who cares about Deano but me :)

theplasticman
01-13-2007, 12:04 PM
Ok, how do I choose:
Will Clark
Eddie Murray
Darin Erstad

Of each player I have upwards of 2000 different. Ive got over 10,000 total Erstads, 25,000 Murrays and 30,000 Clarks. Im up over 10,000 Will Clark rookies as well.

Id love to be able to have all 3 ideally. Are there still plans to do that? Otherwise selecting one is going to be pretty tough :)

My other challenge is that I dont have exact counts of each player. I could submit photos in lieu of counts if that would work.

My wantlists are posted on my website (http://www.clark22murray33.com) and Ive finally begun creating a master gallery. First player Im working on is Murray. Here is a link to the gallery:
http://www.clark22murray33.com/baseball/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=39

Any advice on who I should choose first would be awesome. Its good to be back around. 2006 was a really tough year for me personally and professionally. Cards at times kept me sane :)

will22clark
01-13-2007, 12:34 PM
Dont Choose Will Clark!!! J/K pick the player you need to catch up on most is my advise,Jose

theplasticman
01-13-2007, 01:19 PM
Dont Choose Will Clark!!! J/K pick the player you need to catch up on most is my advise,Jose

Hi Jose,
As you see my progress on my galleries, I hope it will be helpful to you for your Will Clark pursuit. Once Im done I'll have to sort my doubles for you

Spiff
01-13-2007, 01:22 PM
I would agree with Dannyboo, with the SC designation being limited to one player and being primarily a trade tool I would go with the player you could use the most trades for.

premium1981
01-13-2007, 06:50 PM
Ok, how do I choose:
Will Clark
Eddie Murray
Darin Erstad

Of each player I have upwards of 2000 different. Ive got over 10,000 total Erstads, 25,000 Murrays and 30,000 Clarks. Im up over 10,000 Will Clark rookies as well.


Are you sure about your total number of different cards of each guy? Not doubting you, but wondering if you are getting your totals like everyone else. Below is the total number of cards each player has, including 1/1's. You would jump to the #1 supercollector if those stats of different cards are correct.

Darin Erstad - 2231
Will Clark - 2448
Eddie Murray - 2231

theplasticman
01-13-2007, 09:42 PM
Are you sure about your total number of different cards of each guy? Not doubting you, but wondering if you are getting your totals like everyone else. Below is the total number of cards each player has, including 1/1's. You would jump to the #1 supercollector if those stats of different cards are correct.

Darin Erstad - 2231
Will Clark - 2448
Eddie Murray - 2231

Im definitely down to show photos :D

For example... I have:
several hundred different Broder (Unlicensed) cards for Will Clark in addition to many show promos that are very rare and most are likely 1/1.

Beckett's checklists are my base and then I expand from there. They miss a surprisingly large amount of issues that should be included and yet list some (any of the unlicensed ones) that should not.

Once I get my gallerys posted youll understand.

Spiff
01-13-2007, 10:47 PM
Not doubting you, just clarifying (I had the same question as Premium1981). You have 27,552 different Will Clark cards that Beckett missed? If that is the case I am kind of stunned. Beckett lists over 5,000 cards for I-Rod, if the numbers are anywhere the same it boggles my mind to think how many might be out there, could be upwords of 60,000 if the ratio is the same as Clark.

premium1981
01-13-2007, 10:52 PM
Not doubting you, just clarifying (I had the same question as Premium1981). You have 27,552 different Will Clark cards that Beckett missed? If that is the case I am kind of stunned. Beckett lists over 5,000 cards for I-Rod, if the numbers are anywhere the same it boggles my mind to think how many might be out there, could be upwords of 60,000 if the ratio is the same as Clark.


He said that the different cards totaled around 2000. He also collects doubles and that is where the larger totals come from.

Spiff
01-13-2007, 10:55 PM
Ok, makes a lot more sense now. I went back and reread his first post and found it. Missed it somehow the first time. Sets my mind at ease. Still, even with doubles 30,000 cards of any one player is pretty impressive.

ragtop12
01-13-2007, 11:28 PM
Yeah it is... I thought 13,000 Bonds cards was a lot! :)

theplasticman
01-14-2007, 05:07 PM
That's why Im struggling to decide which guy to pick since Im allowed only one. If I could do all 3, that would be ideal :D

Im leaning towards Erstad because he seems to be the only guy I can ever find any needs in trades.

pac_rat_76
01-14-2007, 05:19 PM
How long does it usually take after you submit your application before they let you know either way?

premium1981
01-14-2007, 08:37 PM
How long does it usually take after you submit your application before they let you know either way?


Usually just a few days. The mod team has to be given enough time for everyone to vote.

will22clark
01-15-2007, 03:04 AM
Hi Jose,
As you see my progress on my galleries, I hope it will be helpful to you for your Will Clark pursuit. Once Im done I'll have to sort my doubles for you

great,i cant wait!!! LMK,THANKS

greengrizzle
02-15-2007, 10:02 AM
how do i get a application? i would really like to try a shot for super collector status of Ryan zimmerman!

greengrizzle
02-15-2007, 10:04 AM
ok i dont have a beckett account so i cant pull up the list they have for ryan zimmerman, is there any way someon can help me get that list from there, it would really help me out so much in putting together my have and want list. thank you so much anyone if you could help me.

mrnag
02-15-2007, 10:08 AM
how do i get a application? i would really like to try a shot for super collector status of Ryan zimmerman!


Check the first post on page 1 of this thread. It explains the application process.

If you enter the "my collections" area of Beckett and fill out the app. You get free access to their lists and prices. It only take a couple of minutes.

:)
Mike

ragtop12
02-15-2007, 10:13 AM
how do i get a application? i would really like to try a shot for super collector status of Ryan zimmerman!

Did you read the 1st post?!

ragtop12
02-15-2007, 10:14 AM
ok i dont have a beckett account so i cant pull up the list they have for ryan zimmerman, is there any way someon can help me get that list from there, it would really help me out so much in putting together my have and want list. thank you so much anyone if you could help me.

Beckett accounts are free. Sign up and go to "my collections". You can get a free list of your player(s) there.

greengrizzle
02-15-2007, 10:56 AM
ohh ok, i thought it cost money

ragtop12
02-15-2007, 11:13 AM
ohh ok, i thought it cost money

Only costs money if you are wanting the price guides.

greengrizzle
02-15-2007, 11:22 AM
yeah i thought you had to pay, thank you. i have like 15 trades now with 5 not completed so i wanted to get a head start

greengrizzle
02-15-2007, 01:18 PM
how would i post a link to the list of my ryan zimmermans have's and i mae up a list of all my ryan zimmerman wants. can i link it to my beckett account,but that would cause problem with having to log into my account and everything, i dont have a website to put it onto and link it, i do have a photo bucket, but i dont think there is a way to upload a list, ive only done pictures is there any other way to do this. i know computers and my way around them a little bit but i dont know the best way to do this.

ragtop12
02-15-2007, 02:18 PM
how would i post a link to the list of my ryan zimmermans have's and i mae up a list of all my ryan zimmerman wants. can i link it to my beckett account,but that would cause problem with having to log into my account and everything, i dont have a website to put it onto and link it, i do have a photo bucket, but i dont think there is a way to upload a list, ive only done pictures is there any other way to do this. i know computers and my way around them a little bit but i dont know the best way to do this.

You can make up a thread here with your list/wants, and just link to that thread. Just a thought

greengrizzle
02-15-2007, 03:35 PM
i figured it out. lol, got paid at work all day to do it. and to delete all the 500 some Suscribe/own 1/nr-mt-mt from the list, but i did it, now i just need to complete the last five trades im doing and fill out a application. though i think from the qualifiying standards i prolly wont make super collector status. oh well, i will one day though

ragtop12
02-15-2007, 03:40 PM
i figured it out. lol, got paid at work all day to do it. and to delete all the 500 some Suscribe/own 1/nr-mt-mt from the list, but i did it, now i just need to complete the last five trades im doing and fill out a application. though i think from the qualifiying standards i prolly wont make super collector status. oh well, i will one day though

Good job! :)

I hope you pasted it into Word, and then used Find and Replace to get rid of all those Subscribe stuff instead of deleting each one singlelly! Only would have taken 2 seconds :-x

greengrizzle
02-15-2007, 03:42 PM
lol, no i delete every one single handly lol

ragtop12
02-15-2007, 03:44 PM
lol, no i delete every one single handly lol

OUCH

Well good luck reaching for the Zimmerman SuperCollector title!

will22clark
03-09-2007, 11:42 PM
please put me down for will clark super collector.I made the 20th trade and should get the feedback within a day from lprimus,thanks

Meliah
03-09-2007, 11:43 PM
please put me down for will clark super collector.I made the 20th trade and should get the feedback within a day from lprimus,thanks

You have to apply for it, not announce it:)

will22clark
03-09-2007, 11:47 PM
just noticed that,thanks!

BiggioDiogu759
03-15-2007, 04:02 PM
Can we have a mini Super Collector thing? Mine is horrible comparied to your guys!

2corey0
03-15-2007, 04:33 PM
Can some of the people who vote on the Super Collectors tell me what I need to be one? I have applied twice and been denied twice. I have jerseys, a game used bat and 554 different cards including 10 1/1s and 86 autographs of Corey Patterson. I would hardly say that I am a casual collector. Please let me know. Everything is in my photobucket. Thanks.

will22clark
03-16-2007, 01:19 AM
Can some of the people who vote on the Super Collectors tell me what I need to be one? I have applied twice and been denied twice. I have jerseys, a game used bat and 554 different cards including 10 1/1s and 86 autographs of Corey Patterson. I would hardly say that I am a casual collector. Please let me know. Everything is in my photobucket. Thanks.

same question here pretty much

slavlite
03-16-2007, 02:24 PM
2CoreyO - I have updated the first post to reflect how we want to see a havelist or wantlist. Get yourself a link to a text based wantlist or havelist and reapply, I think that should help. It is very difficult for collectors looking for pattersons that you need when they have to run thru your entire photobucket.

Dannyboo - You are currently sitting at 18.5&#37;, I would think that if you beefed up your percentage you would have a good shot at it.

mario1296
03-25-2007, 02:34 AM
First, I have a lot of Nomar Garciaparra cards but I only have a few of his g/u pieces. Would I be able to gain status if I owned a large percentage of his overall cards but only a few g/u and/or autographed pieces?

Second, Trot Nixon is actually my favorite player but he has only 1116 cards listed on Beckett. Does the low number of total available cards hinder my chances of SC status; afterall, 30&#37; is a pretty good goal, but out of 1116 that's only 335 cards--would that be enough with g/u and auto cards thrown in??

Third, what if I wanted to gain SC status for Wade Boggs, but only his for his Red Sox cards?? What Red Sox fan wants to collect his Yankees or Devil Rays cards, really?!? Say I could come up with my stats for all his Red Sox issues only--as long as the collection were sizeable and had some good Red Sox g/u and autos, etc., could that qualify me for SC status as a Wade Boggs (Red Sox Only) Super Collector?

Fourth, are 1/1's a requirement or just "extra credit"?

AND LAST QUESTION...

Are there any plans for a "Team" Super Collector in the future?


I realize I can only qualify for one player, so it would help to have answers to the above questions before I decide who to focus on.

I have more Nomars than anything else, but adding autos would be MUCH more expensive than those of Trot Nixon or even Wade Boggs.

I have almost an equal percentage of Trot Nixons collected PLUS he's my favorite player! I think it would be cheaper to gain SC status for Nixon. I already have some auto and game-used cards, and more are pretty easy to come by--plus even his singles are cheaper. Availability of singles and 1/1's might be other issues...

Then again, I probably have a much higher percentage of Wade Boggs' RED SOX cards than I do Nomar's or Nixon's TOTAL cards. I don't plan on adding too many Yankee pinstripes or Devil Rays cards to my personal collection anytime soon though (no offense!) so if cutting 2/3 of Wade's total cards out means I can't be a super collector, then I have to go with Nomar or Trot.

Any answers you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks a bunch!

chaddie84
04-16-2007, 06:43 AM
Maybe this has already been answered, but hare 1/1s and PPs included in the total? If not, how about stuff /5 /10, etc?

Curtieson
04-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Maybe this has already been answered, but hare 1/1s and PPs included in the total? If not, how about stuff /5 /10, etc?

Yes, all those count in the total. The easiest way to get a total is just do an overall search for your player of Beckett and that number will be the bench mark total.

slavlite
04-16-2007, 02:10 PM
Sorry I didnt answer these questions earlier:

1: Super collector applications are based on total number of cards listed by beckett( i know beckett isnt complete but they are the most complete available and generally beckett is the standard when trading so that is what we decided to use) including Autos 1/1's and gu cards. a good rule of thumb is if someone already has supercollector status for a player you are considering applying for, use their totals aas a benchmark.

2: The low number does not mean that you would be inelligible, all applications are looked at on there own merit wheter a player has 7000 cards or just a few hundred.

3: applying to be a super collector of a player but only of a particular team will not be accepted, if you are worthy of a supercollector tag then you should be a super collector and collect everything of that player.

4: 1/1's must be included in total number of cards

At the moment there are no plans for super team collectors


First, I have a lot of Nomar Garciaparra cards but I only have a few of his g/u pieces. Would I be able to gain status if I owned a large percentage of his overall cards but only a few g/u and/or autographed pieces?

Second, Trot Nixon is actually my favorite player but he has only 1116 cards listed on Beckett. Does the low number of total available cards hinder my chances of SC status; afterall, 30% is a pretty good goal, but out of 1116 that's only 335 cards--would that be enough with g/u and auto cards thrown in??

Third, what if I wanted to gain SC status for Wade Boggs, but only his for his Red Sox cards?? What Red Sox fan wants to collect his Yankees or Devil Rays cards, really?!? Say I could come up with my stats for all his Red Sox issues only--as long as the collection were sizeable and had some good Red Sox g/u and autos, etc., could that qualify me for SC status as a Wade Boggs (Red Sox Only) Super Collector?

Fourth, are 1/1's a requirement or just "extra credit"?

AND LAST QUESTION...

Are there any plans for a "Team" Super Collector in the future?


I realize I can only qualify for one player, so it would help to have answers to the above questions before I decide who to focus on.

I have more Nomars than anything else, but adding autos would be MUCH more expensive than those of Trot Nixon or even Wade Boggs.

I have almost an equal percentage of Trot Nixons collected PLUS he's my favorite player! I think it would be cheaper to gain SC status for Nixon. I already have some auto and game-used cards, and more are pretty easy to come by--plus even his singles are cheaper. Availability of singles and 1/1's might be other issues...

Then again, I probably have a much higher percentage of Wade Boggs' RED SOX cards than I do Nomar's or Nixon's TOTAL cards. I don't plan on adding too many Yankee pinstripes or Devil Rays cards to my personal collection anytime soon though (no offense!) so if cutting 2/3 of Wade's total cards out means I can't be a super collector, then I have to go with Nomar or Trot.

Any answers you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks a bunch!

RyanL24
06-18-2007, 06:49 PM
Can or will there be multiple "Super Collectors" of the same player? For example "robe024", "RyanL24", and myself all have pretty large collections of Rickey Henderson. Also can a member be a Super Collector of more than one player?
Tim


Not to worry Tim, RyanL24 doesn't have a 5.0 rating. ;) ;)

weegee
06-18-2007, 10:45 PM
i posted for trot nixon super collector quit a while ago and havnt heard any thing on it . just wondering what the status is with that

bigalbert
06-19-2007, 10:35 PM
It says in my sig that I'm a Ripken super collector, isn't that good enough:D

Taliasen
06-19-2007, 11:02 PM
Just raising the question again of a member being a Super Collector of more than one player?
Tim

mrmopar
06-19-2007, 11:19 PM
I believe they have limited it to any one player per person.

I was more curious to see how many different people could be identified as supercollectors of a single player though. In my mind, a supercollector is THE top collector of that player. If there is a card they need, then they get it. Money plays a roll for sure. Supercollectors aren't called casualsupercollectors for a reason. Of course that would mean you could be stripped of your SC status if a more qualified SC came along. Would make for an interesting and unique title for sure!!

cpr1981
06-19-2007, 11:26 PM
i am with "bigalbert"

it says down there \/ that i am a super collector..close enough? lol

BiggioDiogu759
06-20-2007, 11:41 AM
I have about 200 of Biggio.

weegee
06-20-2007, 12:35 PM
just making sure some one saw my post and can give me a heads up

worldwideed
06-20-2007, 12:40 PM
The Bench supercollecter tag is more an pride thing than anything else. I doesn't get you anything or make you a better person. If someone wants to call themselves supercollector in thier sig I see nothing wrong with that. Heck, change you legal name to Supercollector if you want.

Frankly, until we put this in place I NEVER once called myself a supercollector. But now that it has SOME meaning attached to it I rather like it. It feels good to be recognized for what I have ALREADY accomplished with my collection and not just what I want to accomplish.

caribbeankid92
06-20-2007, 12:51 PM
Heck, change you legal name to Supercollector if you want.



:p

Here is how I see it, I am not a serious player collector. But, I can see the guys who really are those Super Collectors. I am not going to say who I think is, and who I think isn't, but its just a different class.

Like completing those Topps Chrome rainbows of your guy, or getting all the auto variations of that set, its just a different class of collectors.

As for the money thing, that's why I stopped trying to be a player collector, IT IS EXPENSIVE but I think you have to spend some money to buy the cards you need, or buy the cards to trade for the cards you need.

My 2 Cents,
Ben

RyanL24
06-22-2007, 05:51 PM
I believe they have limited it to any one player per person.

I was more curious to see how many different people could be identified as supercollectors of a single player though. In my mind, a supercollector is THE top collector of that player. If there is a card they need, then they get it. Money plays a roll for sure. Supercollectors aren't called casualsupercollectors for a reason. Of course that would mean you could be stripped of your SC status if a more qualified SC came along. Would make for an interesting and unique title for sure!!

That would be awesome!!!

I don't really understand why I can't be a supercollector of 3 players though, well like bigalbert says I really can huh? just put it in my sig... but I don't want to seem all proud and snooty like that, right wwe? ;)

worldwideed
06-22-2007, 06:01 PM
That would be awesome!!!

I don't really understand why I can't be a supercollector of 3 players though, well like bigalbert says I really can huh? just put it in my sig... but I don't want to seem all proud and snooty like that, right wwe? ;)

Heck, I don't know anything anymore. Well, I do know that I'm geeked about Jr. playing in Seattle tonight. 4 hours and counting.http://forum.laurellkhamilton.org/images/smilies/happy/clapping.gif

jaderock
08-07-2007, 03:36 AM
application submitted :)

packbypack
08-07-2007, 04:08 AM
If JadeRock doesn't qualify then this is all a sham, JadeRock's collection is INSANE!

caribbeankid92
08-07-2007, 09:11 AM
application submitted :)

Doesn't it say in the first post, you gotta have 20 completed trades before you enter? Your collection is SC worthy, just saying...

Ben

RyanL24
08-07-2007, 09:37 AM
I hope JadeRock's collection qualifies too, because it has to be the most superest player collection I've ever seen.

It has inspired me in my own player collecting, and I think he's really the only one I can say that about! Trifecta... beautiful!!!!

Jeffo65
08-07-2007, 10:41 AM
Read the OP. It clearly states what needs to be done.

Since this is a trade tool you need to have an up-to-date want or have list of the player, must have 20 completed trades and a 5.0 Trader Rating!

virtualyankee
08-07-2007, 01:31 PM
Being primarily a set collector, I feel kind of left out or excluded from the party. Could the same general guidelines used for player collectors be used for set and/or team players? I ask because limiting the supercollector title to player collectors seems to endorse a particular type of collecting - although I certainly don't see the title being used maliciously to purposefully promote player collecting or anything.

Basically, I can see that a collector would be a player supercollector with x number of cards with z number of parallels, y number gu, w number autos, etc as determined by the mod team - but a team supercollector could have similar (or even greater) numbers with regard to a specific team. Set collectors could use a different rubric of some sort.

Right now, a player supercollector could have $50K worth of cards in his collection but a set/team collector could have a $75K collection and not be considered a supercollector.


...
At the moment there are no plans for super team collectors

cpl0311
08-26-2007, 11:46 PM
I have been reading some of the post to this and I'm amused that this title of Super Collector has brought so much attention, some of it negative. It's a simple tag for a player collector. Just like adding that long saught after RC, it feels great once you get your hands on it and adding it to your collection.

I have been collecting Magglio ordonez seriously since mid 2000. Since then I have been deployed 3 times with the military and upon my return I have gone back and put some serious money to get to where I'm at now. So for me if this gets added to my sig, I'll go smoke me a nice Honduran cigar and down a few shots of Tequila. (not recommended for the weak) so for those who feel this is cool to have, keep doing what you do, for does that think this idea stinks, keep doing what you do. It only makes a difference to the individual and that is "ME". Thanks for the great site guys.

Ricardo

dcb11
08-27-2007, 09:59 AM
Would this happen to also be available for team collectors say like
PENN STATE






:D

1st40/40
12-31-2007, 07:46 PM
I think I would easily have the Jose Canseco supercollector (1120/2615 recognized and over 400 that aren't) tag wrapped up but I don't have the trade qualifier just yet.. its hard when you only collect a player that nobody seems to have cards of..even when you need 12 years worth of them! I need the bench members to step up and help me finish out that qualifier and then I can put in my submission!!

baseballonly
01-01-2008, 12:33 AM
I only have to get 10 more trades, 6 are already in the TM and 4 I need to complete.
I am guessing I'll be the only Chris Volstad Super Collector on these boards.

sandman43103
01-01-2008, 09:09 PM
I think I would easily have the Jose Canseco supercollector (1120/2615 recognized and over 400 that aren't) tag wrapped up but I don't have the trade qualifier just yet.. its hard when you only collect a player that nobody seems to have cards of..even when you need 12 years worth of them! I need the bench members to step up and help me finish out that qualifier and then I can put in my submission!!

My wife "helped" me withmy annual donations and dropped off the wrong boxes. That means I still have the Canseco cards I listed for you, before. Let me know if you are still interested.

Andy's Dad
01-02-2008, 03:54 PM
My wife "helped" me withmy annual donations and dropped off the wrong boxes. That means I still have the Canseco cards I listed for you, before. Let me know if you are still interested.

Women. I swear. :D

Had a similar experience. A guy on another site had been given 10 or 12 banker's boxes of cards, all mixed up, mostly the late 80's & early 90's trash, but there were gems hiding amongst the muck. He went through 2 of them and said "I give!" He offered up a box each to the first people that responded. I posted, and he set aside a box for me.

I then realized that he lived near a coworker of mine out in the Bay Area. I contacted my West Coast coworker and asked if he would stop by and pick them up and ship them to me through our company. He agreed. We arranged for him to meet the guy at his place on a Saturday.

My coworker went over on the Saturday and....my website friend had been called in to work. His wife answered, and said "Yeah, they're here..." and gave my coworker the SIX remaining boxes that he had set aside for others. Not knowing any better, he took all 6 and shipped them to me!

When the guy came home, he found my phone # and called me, and told me the story. I almost died laughing. He was, too; he didn't mind, he just told the others waiting what had happened. No one was upset. I got the 6 bankers boxes a few days later and spent an entire week at Christmas going through them all. I still have flashbacks from that. :eek:

With few exceptions, women + men's hobbies = recipe for disaster. :D

will22clark
01-16-2008, 10:12 PM
i would like to re-apply.I am up to 499/2470 different cards, a auto hat and this would only help make my collection grow.Heres my Will Clark page:
http://www.freewebs.com/josecasillas/willclarkmasterpage.html

Jose

Meliah
01-17-2008, 12:08 AM
i would like to re-apply.I am up to 499/2470 different cards, a auto hat and this would only help make my collection grow.Heres my Will Clark page:
http://www.freewebs.com/josecasillas/willclarkmasterpage.html

Jose

Applications need to be PM'd to either myself or Slavlite. You will need a 5.0 Trader rating first though.

AUTaxMan
01-17-2008, 10:58 AM
Would this happen to also be available for team collectors say like
PENN STATE:D

I'd like to reopen this topic of discussion. Is it possible to be a team supercollector? I know there are some individuals on this site who have some team collections that rival some of our supercollector collections.

Of course, with a team collector, resources just aren't going to allow you to near completion of the entire 100% goal of player collectors. I think it's just as impressive when you are a team collector, and your team collection includes, to your knowledge, the most comprehensive individual collections of lesser known players to exist.

For example, I am almost certain my Auburn collection contains at least 15 collections of individual players that, standing alone, would be the best known to exist (Tommie Agee - complete run, Devin Aromashodu, Karsten Bailey, Tim Carter, Ronney Daniels, Karlos Dansby, Heath Evans, Ben Leard, Chris Martin, Jeris McIntyre, Walter Reeves, Gerald Robinson, Frank Sanders, Dontarrious Thomas, Ed West, and maybe some others). I know I'm not the only one on this site that this applies to.

Again, just throwing the idea out there.

Brandon

cubsdback17
03-02-2008, 01:52 AM
Two questions about becoming a Super Collector:

1) Do we get notified if we don't get accepted as a Super Collector?
2) If we do get notified, about how long does it take to get a response?

Meliah
03-02-2008, 02:03 AM
Two questions about becoming a Super Collector:

1) Do we get notified if we don't get accepted as a Super Collector?
2) If we do get notified, about how long does it take to get a response?

1--Yes
2--Depends on how long the voting takes, can be weeks sometimes if the vote is close and some Mods are not present.

cubsdback17
03-02-2008, 02:05 AM
1--Yes
2--Depends on how long the voting takes, can be weeks sometimes if the vote is close and some Mods are not present.

Thanks for the quick response. I was just wondering since it has been almost a month.

Meliah
03-02-2008, 03:02 AM
Thanks for the quick response. I was just wondering since it has been almost a month.

Let me check my records, I might have missed you this week.

Taliasen
03-02-2008, 07:57 AM
I'd like to reopen this topic of discussion. Is it possible to be a team supercollector? I know there are some individuals on this site who have some team collections that rival some of our supercollector collections.

Of course, with a team collector, resources just aren't going to allow you to near completion of the entire 100% goal of player collectors. I think it's just as impressive when you are a team collector, and your team collection includes, to your knowledge, the most comprehensive individual collections of lesser known players to exist.

For example, I am almost certain my Auburn collection contains at least 15 collections of individual players that, standing alone, would be the best known to exist (Tommie Agee - complete run, Devin Aromashodu, Karsten Bailey, Tim Carter, Ronney Daniels, Karlos Dansby, Heath Evans, Ben Leard, Chris Martin, Jeris McIntyre, Walter Reeves, Gerald Robinson, Frank Sanders, Dontarrious Thomas, Ed West, and maybe some others). I know I'm not the only one on this site that this applies to.

Again, just throwing the idea out there.

Brandon

You do make some valid points. When this was brought up before there did not seem to be an overwhelming desire for it. there were only a small handfull of members interested in it. The other problem that we encountered was that there is absolute amount or benchmark number to compare against for a team collector. With player collectors there is alway Beckett to use a guideline. Even though this is a subjective category, having hard numbers and a % to go by help. Because of these items is why I included the Team Collector division in my annual The Bench Player/Collector contest. I will run the contest again this September. You can see from last years contest that only a few people were interested in this division.

Tim

theplasticman
03-06-2008, 07:57 PM
Meliah - sent you a PM.

I'm gathering my information now for my players.

theplasticman
03-14-2008, 07:10 PM
Meliah - sent you a PM.

I'm gathering my information now for my players.

Just checking in with you in reference to my PM. Thanks for the help!

Josh

DaClyde
05-25-2008, 01:38 PM
This may have been addresses already in the previous 11+ pages, but can we submit more than one application at a time for different players (rather than submitting one, waiting for rejection, submitting another, etc)?

Meliah
05-25-2008, 02:42 PM
This may have been addresses already in the previous 11+ pages, but can we submit more than one application at a time for different players (rather than submitting one, waiting for rejection, submitting another, etc)?

Just one at a time please, that could really mess up the voting otherwise:)

mrmopar
05-25-2008, 02:55 PM
Have you ever considered opening up the voting, say in poll format, to the general population (is that too much of a prison term?)? We only get to see the final results of qualifying collections and don't see the rejections or what those collections contain. I'm not saying the current voting team is not capable of making good selections, but considering the "badge" of supercollector is recognized site wide, wouldn't admission be that much more rewarding if it was recognized/determined by the site as a whole?

It's kinda like the HOF now. There are long running arguments about who deserves it and who doesn't, but the bottom line is if the writers or vet committee doesn't vote you in, you don't make it! That is the same here. If the mod team doesn't think you cut the mustard, you go back to the drawing board. Maybe the general membership here is more strict than the current selection committee, maybe it's more accepting? Who knows. It almost feels a little too sterile or formal the way it is now. Card collecting is supposed to be about fun!

Doc Dave
05-25-2008, 04:53 PM
Have you ever considered opening up the voting, say in poll format, to the general population (is that too much of a prison term?)? We only get to see the final results of qualifying collections and don't see the rejections or what those collections contain. I'm not saying the current voting team is not capable of making good selections, but considering the "badge" of supercollector is recognized site wide, wouldn't admission be that much more rewarding if it was recognized/determined by the site as a whole?

It's kinda like the HOF now. There are long running arguments about who deserves it and who doesn't, but the bottom line is if the writers or vet committee doesn't vote you in, you don't make it! That is the same here. If the mod team doesn't think you cut the mustard, you go back to the drawing board. Maybe the general membership here is more strict than the current selection committee, maybe it's more accepting? Who knows. It almost feels a little too sterile or formal the way it is now. Card collecting is supposed to be about fun!

I think the current system works well. I imagine that most applicants are rejected, and I think such rejections are best done from behind the scenes. Also, a smaller committee will tend to be more consistent.

But I hope the Bench awards are on for this year. I enjoyed voting for those last year, and I'm looking forward to seeing how people have improved their collections.

bigslimdog
05-25-2008, 08:24 PM
I think the current system works well. I imagine that most applicants are rejected, and I think such rejections are best done from behind the scenes. Also, a smaller committee will tend to be more consistent.

But I hope the Bench awards are on for this year. I enjoyed voting for those last year, and I'm looking forward to seeing how people have improved their collections.

I think the current system works well also. I think that if we opened it up to everyone to vote, the title would be given away too freely. I feel like the mod team has seen so many collections and applications, that they REALLY know what it takes to give the title out. If too many people got the title, it wouldn't be as meaningful.

And no, I'm not just saying that because I recently got the super collector title. I felt the same way through my 3 previous applications and rejections before I finally got it.

mrmopar
05-26-2008, 12:12 AM
? What does it mean now? It's basically public bragging rights. Maybe it means more than that to some, others not.


If too many people got the title, it wouldn't be as meaningful.

I'm not sure I agree that more awards would be made and the level of collections "watered down" as well, but it's hard to say. People are impressed by different things and voting most likely would be hard to predict. I know I would not have passed several collections that are now considered super, but that is just my sole opinion.

One rule I would change though would be that only one person from the site could be a SC of any given player. If we are grading collections, then the rest have to take a back seat to THE super collection for any given player. Let's use Mark Brunell as an example since we have all seen the collection highlights. Jaderock is not an "official Bench super collector" at this time and I am assuming he has not applied. Would you feel right awarding the title to any other Brunell collector knowing the depth of his collection? I think not! That would make it extra interesting when there were several active collectors of key players, where the title could change hands at any given moment.

Meliah
05-26-2008, 01:34 AM
I think the current system works well. I imagine that most applicants are rejected, and I think such rejections are best done from behind the scenes. Also, a smaller committee will tend to be more consistent.

But I hope the Bench awards are on for this year. I enjoyed voting for those last year, and I'm looking forward to seeing how people have improved their collections.

They are on Dave, we plan on making that a yearly thing:)

Taliasen
05-26-2008, 05:39 AM
Matt stole my thunder! Yes, I am planning on running them again. I will start taking applications in mid-August and start the tourney in September.

Tim

Doc Dave
05-26-2008, 07:04 AM
Cool and thanks. I'm going to have to start looking for a perfect card so I can have an entry.

JJLevitsky
05-26-2008, 08:48 AM
I am looking forward to it. Probably NOT going to defend my set collector title - I will let someone else win that but I will try in another category I am sure.

Thanks,

Jeff

1st40/40
06-18-2008, 08:18 AM
I sent in my application for Jose Canseco super collector status a few weeks ago.. haven't heard a thing back yet about it. How long does it take to get a response?

Meliah
06-18-2008, 03:10 PM
I sent in my application for Jose Canseco super collector status a few weeks ago.. haven't heard a thing back yet about it. How long does it take to get a response?

We had a lot of applications ahead of you and it's been hectic around here for me. Doesn't normally take this long but we're getting there:)

Patrick615
06-19-2008, 02:36 AM
What about players that just recently came out?Such as the 08 football class.Would I be able run for Super Collector of a 08 RC?Because they dont have a whole lot of cards out yet,I was wondering if this would be eligable(Although,more cards are released everyday).Also,I would like to see the Team Collector thing work out too.Thanks and LMK.
-Patrick

Meliah
06-19-2008, 02:46 AM
What about players that just recently came out?Such as the 08 football class.Would I be able run for Super Collector of a 08 RC?Because they dont have a whole lot of cards out yet,I was wondering if this would be eligable(Although,more cards are released everyday).Also,I would like to see the Team Collector thing work out too.Thanks and LMK.
-Patrick

How many cards are we talking about? If the guy has like 20 cards you better have just about all of them:) Smaller collections are judged tougher than larger collections from what I have noticed.

Patrick615
06-19-2008, 02:57 AM
Well right now the player im thinking about doing has about 62 cards.It increases almost everyday.I probably wont send a application in for about a month are so.When the top brands start making there 08-09 cards,his number of cards will rise im a pretty good amount im sure.I also have lots of other non-card items to.Lets say he has,200 cards.About how many do you think I would need to have to have a chance at being a SC?

Meliah
06-19-2008, 03:25 AM
Well right now the player im thinking about doing has about 62 cards.It increases almost everyday.I probably wont send a application in for about a month are so.When the top brands start making there 08-09 cards,his number of cards will rise im a pretty good amount im sure.I also have lots of other non-card items to.Lets say he has,200 cards.About how many do you think I would need to have to have a chance at being a SC?

The lowest collections I can think of are mine for Choi, Jeremy Giambi at 403 cards and 86% and Hensley Meulens with 98 cards at 90%.

casket
06-19-2008, 04:27 AM
Hey Matt!
A while back I asked obout being team collector and you said that the Bench only did players collectors. I noticed that JJLevitsky is a set collector....how is this a player collector? Just curious is all. Thanks.
Hope all is well with you.

Carl

Meliah
06-19-2008, 05:03 AM
Hey Matt!
A while back I asked obout being team collector and you said that the Bench only did players collectors. I noticed that JJLevitsky is a set collector....how is this a player collector? Just curious is all. Thanks.
Hope all is well with you.

Carl

Hey Carl:) Jeff won the 2007 Set Collection division last year and has that as an award, this is a totally different thing that the SC program. That is a yearly contest where people submit collections from different areas and everyone on The Bench gets to vote.

Patrick615
06-19-2008, 05:12 AM
The lowest collections I can think of are mine for Choi, Jeremy Giambi at 403 cards and 86% and Hensley Meulens with 98 cards at 90%.

Well,I'll send in my application when I think I've gotten a fair amount to be cosidered.Im really gonna start workin on it,over the summer since I got alot of spare time.Thanks for the help!
-Patrick

casket
06-19-2008, 05:28 AM
Hey Carl:) Jeff won the 2007 Set Collection division last year and has that as an award, this is a totally different thing that the SC program. That is a yearly contest where people submit collections from different areas and everyone on The Bench gets to vote.
Ahhhhhh....I see. thanks for the quick reply!

Carl

BiggioDiogu759
06-19-2008, 12:40 PM
I am working on a site/bucket, hopefully I will submit mine soon.

JJJ5278
06-19-2008, 06:46 PM
You'll need to complete a bunch of trades before you can submit. From the rules on page 1:
Since this is a trade tool you need to have an up-to-date want or have list of the player, must have 20 completed trades and a 5.0 Trader Rating!

seawolf17
06-19-2008, 07:56 PM
Kevin McReynolds doesn't have a whole lot of cards out there either -- about 270 -- but I'm over 85&#37;.

BiggioDiogu759
06-19-2008, 08:23 PM
Dang. Well, maybe in a couple months.

cardking94
06-19-2008, 08:34 PM
I would like to get a SC tag for Alfonso Soriano. I should have 20+ Bench points a few weeks into July. Until then I will be making a have lost for him.
thanks,
sam

mintman2
06-28-2008, 12:30 AM
We had a lot of applications ahead of you and it's been hectic around here for me. Doesn't normally take this long but we're getting there:)

There must be a problem I'm not aware of. I sent you a pm, titled "super collector application", on 5-30 and according to my sent pm list you haven't read it. Should I resend it ?

Thanks,
ALAN

Meliah
06-28-2008, 12:45 AM
There must be a problem I'm not aware of. I sent you a pm, titled "super collector application", on 5-30 and according to my sent pm list you haven't read it. Should I resend it ?

Thanks,
ALAN

I don't recall ever getting that one, sorry about that.

mintman2
06-28-2008, 01:24 AM
No problem, I resent it. :)

marinocollector
07-01-2008, 04:05 AM
just joined... think thisll be interesting to see if i qualify one day...

fandruw25
07-27-2008, 07:52 PM
What is the best site to post a have/want list on and is it better to just have all 5000 cards on one sub-page or break it down by years or something.

I'm thinking of applying, and would like to maximize my chances.

Thanks

andrewcstein
07-27-2008, 07:56 PM
What is the best site to post a have/want list on and is it better to just have all 5000 cards on one sub-page or break it down by years or something.

I'm thinking of applying, and would like to maximize my chances.

Thanks

You definitely should apply - your numbers are awesome. I have mine on a freewebs, and I notice a lot of others do too. A regular list all on one page is fine - most of the ones I've seen are just havelists.

mintman2
07-27-2008, 09:48 PM
What is the best site to post a have/want list on and is it better to just have all 5000 cards on one sub-page or break it down by years or something.

I'm thinking of applying, and would like to maximize my chances.

Thanks


I use boomspeed.com

stlcardtrader
07-27-2008, 09:50 PM
Sounds fun...

titan777
07-28-2008, 09:45 AM
Hi Meliah.
I have the following Leon Durham cards for you.

1978 Arkansas Travelers TCMA 8
1997 Vancouver Canadians Best 2

I need to verify if have some Pride and Villanueva cards.
PLMK what you have in Geovany Soto and Roberto Alomar inserts.

Pete

Meliah
07-28-2008, 02:34 PM
Hi Meliah.
I have the following Leon Durham cards for you.

1978 Arkansas Travelers TCMA 8
1997 Vancouver Canadians Best 2

I need to verify if have some Pride and Villanueva cards.
PLMK what you have in Geovany Soto and Roberto Alomar inserts.

Pete

Very cool, I'll send you a PM now:)

onionring9
08-07-2008, 03:51 PM
sent a PM to you Meliah

swingerboy72
08-21-2008, 12:55 PM
pm sent

ilikeautoandgu
09-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Question: Would someone be able to apply for supercollector if they are only going after autos and game used of their player and not base? Their numbers of what they have percentage-wise would be lower.

Meliah
09-03-2008, 05:24 PM
Question: Would someone be able to apply for supercollector if they are only going after autos and game used of their player and not base? Their numbers of what they have percentage-wise would be lower.

We consider a SC someone that goes after all cards of a player.

Daniel Millarez
09-24-2008, 01:17 PM
what if a player has only 2 cards and a member has both of them. what is the likelyhood of them becoming a "super collector" for that player, if he/she applied?

Meliah
09-30-2008, 03:58 PM
what if a player has only 2 cards and a member has both of them. what is the likelyhood of them becoming a "super collector" for that player, if he/she applied?

With only 2 cards I would say unlikely. Depends on how rare the cards are I suppose but doesn't seem like it was much of a challenge.

LaPorta Fan
10-01-2008, 01:27 PM
I can't wait for to be the Grady Sizemore Super Collector! Here's just an overview to look for- I'll get to 20 trades soon enough

2000 Grady Sizemore Bowman RC BGS 9.5 ( Just won 10 minutes ago )
2004 Grady Sizemore Just Minors Auto MINI HELMET ( SILVER INK ) With COA
2001 Bowman RC with David Krynzel
2008 UD Goudey
2004 Bowman Chrome Draft X-Fractor
2004 Bowman Chrome Draft Printing Plate 1/1
2006 Grady Sizemore Ovation JERSEY
2008 UD Game Worn JSY
2008 POH Franchise History JSY
2006 Artifacts JSY 228/325
2007 Turkey Red
2006 Turkey Red
2008 Co-Signers /250
2007 Topps
2008 Topps Heritage Martinez/Hafner/Sizemore
2008 Topps Chrome
2008 UD Starquest
2008 UD
2007 Topps Opening Day
2007 Bowman
2007 Allen and Ginter
2007 Allen and Ginter MINI
2008 Topps Triple Threads Emerald ( trying to complete rainbow ) /240
2008 Topps Triple Threads Printing Plate 1/1
2008 Bowman
2007 Fleer
2005 Donruss Team Heroes
2008 Topps
2007 UD Leading Off parallel
2007 Fleer Ultra /999
2008 Allen and Ginter
2006 Bowman Heritage
2006 UD
2008 Ginter Washington State GRady
2007 Ginter Grady Sketch card
2006 Fleer
2006 Sweet Spot
2008 SP Legendary Cuts Destination Stardom Jsy
2003 Futures Game Jsy
2007 Fleer Feel the Game Jsy
lmk people

JerryRiceFan
11-13-2008, 12:55 PM
Alright i know im new and all, but 15 pages is alot to go through :)

This % thing is this from becketts list or what.. I mean for example back in the day say the topps cards had diff. plate letters and beckett doesnt list those separately ? Also old ball stuff that beckett does not list.

Meliah
11-13-2008, 01:03 PM
Alright i know im new and all, but 15 pages is alot to go through :)

This % thing is this from becketts list or what.. I mean for example back in the day say the topps cards had diff. plate letters and beckett doesnt list those separately ? Also old ball stuff that beckett does not list.

% we just use the Beckett number for what they have as number of total cards per player. I know they don't list everything but it's the best guide we have to gauge collections for that aspect.

JerryRiceFan
11-14-2008, 05:43 AM
% we just use the Beckett number for what they have as number of total cards per player. I know they don't list everything but it's the best guide we have to gauge collections for that aspect.


ok thanks. most of my over 2200 are listed, ill have to wait till i qualify lol

75zito
11-14-2008, 02:14 PM
Id like to be considered for Barry Zito, I just about have my site complete, just uploaded Scans but my list are pretty much correct, I didnt list any non-licensed stuff for my total number, I acutally thought I had more than I did, but with over a 1000+ cards, actually just bought a lot of 700!! so will be adding that as soon as I get them!! Hopefully my number will increase!:D

Please check my site and let me know what I need to add!

My collection is listed in my "tradelist section"

Thanks

HoosierBuddy
11-14-2008, 02:33 PM
Id like to be considered for Barry Zito, I just about have my site complete, just uploaded Scans but my list are pretty much correct, I didnt list any non-licensed stuff for my total number, I acutally thought I had more than I did, but with over a 1000+ cards, actually just bought a lot of 700!! so will be adding that as soon as I get them!! Hopefully my number will increase!:D

Please check my site and let me know what I need to add!

My collection is listed in my "tradelist section"

Thanks

Everything you need to know about applying for a SC status, is in the very first post of this thread.

C.L.258
11-23-2008, 02:03 PM
can there be TEAM super collectors?

stephj24
11-23-2008, 02:56 PM
can there be TEAM super collectors?

As of right now this is for player collectors only. Perhaps in the future we will expand the program to include team super collectors.

Steph

jdawg
02-02-2009, 03:10 PM
cool idea

redzfan11
06-19-2009, 05:46 AM
Having some problems with my web site. Can I send someone either a text file or excel file with my Larkin stats/cards? I think my collection is getting pretty good....over 42&#37; including these highlights:

9 different of the 2005 Sweet Spot Autos...
Dual Bat Barrel #d 15: Griffey and Ripken
Dual Red/Blue Stitch #d 15: Griffey and Ripken
Dual Red Stitch #d 25: Griffey
Dual Glove #d 10: Ripken (Just picked up on Ebay...in the mail!!!)
Larkin Ball #d to 175, 75
Larkin Barrel #d 15

2008 Prime Cuts Quad Autos #d 10: Rose/Bench/Morgan/Larkin

UPDATE...I have the Larkin page up on my www in my sig but the links for pictures aren't working yet...work in progress...

Thanks and LMK,
Steve

Taliasen
06-20-2009, 07:10 PM
Pics are not required, just the need/have list. If you are still having trouble with your site, just copy past the list into a new post/thread here and include the link to that thread in your application.

Tal

redzfan11
06-23-2009, 04:24 PM
Thanks Tal. Site is working (well enough) and application submitted.

Steve

Konel07
09-14-2009, 12:11 AM
Hi I am awaiting the outcome of the Vote
For my Ozzie Canseco SC sorry to be impatient I was just curious..
Thanks
~Chris

stephj24
09-14-2009, 09:25 AM
Hi I am awaiting the outcome of the Vote
For my Ozzie Canseco SC sorry to be impatient I was just curious..
Thanks
~Chris

All applicants are notified by PM as to the outcome of the vote. We have a few mods who are away right now so sometimes the vote can take longer.

Steph

Konel07
09-14-2009, 06:36 PM
All applicants are notified by PM as to the outcome of the vote. We have a few mods who are away right now so sometimes the vote can take longer.

Steph

I will be patient.

~Chris

Konel07
10-06-2009, 03:01 AM
I am ready to resubmit for super collector of
Ozzie Canseco
I now have 32 of 40
1 jersey
1 autographed photo
numerous pics
and a site with haves and needs in my sig
lmk
Chris

premium1981
10-06-2009, 06:05 AM
I am ready to resubmit for super collector of
Ozzie Canseco
I now have 32 of 40
1 jersey
1 autographed photo
numerous pics
and a site with haves and needs in my sig
lmk
Chris


I am going to be honest with you. It is very hard to get super collector status when your player only has 40 issued cards.

Therion
02-23-2010, 12:05 PM
Darryl Kile submitted. Keeping my fingers crossed :D

DaClyde
02-23-2010, 10:54 PM
I am ready to resubmit for super collector of
Ozzie Canseco
I now have 32 of 40


So why does your wantlist only include a single card?

Meliah
02-24-2010, 01:13 AM
So why does your wantlist only include a single card?

Maybe he found some cards in the four months since he made that post:)

Konel07
02-24-2010, 01:18 AM
I am ready to resubmit for super collector of
Ozzie Canseco
I now have 38 of 40
1 custom jersey card
1 jersey
2 autographed photo
1 auto'd mlbb
numerous pics
and a site with haves and needs in my sig
lmk
Chris

mrmopar
06-15-2010, 11:28 PM
Why would that be, as you are assumably a voting member and can help sway a vote?

It would appear to me that there can't be super collectors of common players who debuted before the glut of cards being issued for even the most common of commons by that definition. Spiff has a fantastic collection of Jon Matlack that only had a little over 100 items, considering Matlack had a decent career! Why not Ozzie?

I'd say following a player like Ozzie Canseco, who did nothing to speak of at the MLB level, and obtaining nearly everything there is is the essence of super collecting in my mind.

It seems more dedicated to me than yet ANOTHER "super collector" of fill in the blank recent hottest___________ superstar, who has 1500 of 15000 cards issued.


I am going to be honest with you. It is very hard to get super collector status when your player only has 40 issued cards.

PRosefan1
06-16-2010, 12:04 AM
I dont get a vote but I consider him an Ozzie Conseco super collector.

bigpapiortiz34
06-16-2010, 12:10 AM
I totally agree. I think it is great when collectors take an obscure player and get 100% of what Beckett lists plus many unlisted and non-card items.

Konel07
11-23-2010, 11:10 PM
I wish to be consider for supercollector status for Jose Canseco
here are my stats as well as my web link
Jose Canseco total 704/2,658 =26.4% 45 g/u 8 auto
http://55-33alldaycanseco.webs.com/
in addition to the above i have the following
3 slu's rangers/a's
auto 8x10
athletics canseco jersey size 2xl
1 canseco pennant

please let me know what else you may need

Meliah
11-24-2010, 01:04 AM
I wish to be consider for supercollector status for Jose Canseco
here are my stats as well as my web link
Jose Canseco total 704/2,658 =26.4% 45 g/u 8 auto
http://55-33alldaycanseco.webs.com/
in addition to the above i have the following
3 slu's rangers/a's
auto 8x10
athletics canseco jersey size 2xl
1 canseco pennant

please let me know what else you may need

Applications are to sent by PM to myself or Slavlite, thanks.

K.C._Royals!
11-30-2010, 10:36 AM
I wish to be consider for supercollector status for Jose Canseco
here are my stats as well as my web link
Jose Canseco total 704/2,658 =26.4% 45 g/u 8 auto
http://55-33alldaycanseco.webs.com/
in addition to the above i have the following
3 slu's rangers/a's
auto 8x10
athletics canseco jersey size 2xl
1 canseco pennant

please let me know what else you may need

The Bench already has an official Jose Canseco Super-collector. "1st40/40" has that distinction.

Konel07
11-30-2010, 10:48 AM
there can be more then one!

K.C._Royals!
11-30-2010, 10:58 AM
there can be more then one!

POLITICAL MUD-SLINGING VALIDATION ALERT:

Yes, but I really feel that there should be at least 1 Ryan Klesko Super-Collector before there are two Jose Canseco collectors. :D

Konel07
11-30-2010, 11:04 AM
lol thats a toss up!

TNP777
06-27-2011, 06:48 PM
been quite a while since I've poked around the site. I love the idea. PM sent to Meliah.

tygercub12
04-26-2012, 07:40 AM
We consider a SC someone that goes after all cards of a player.

Just a question... assuming someone (like myself) has absolutely no interest in obtaining 1/1 cards.

He or she could never become a super-collector? Or, if never is too strong of a word, he or she has a very slim chance of SC status?

I personally think they (1/1s) are a marketing ploy and I have no interest in stuffing the pockets of card companies more than I already do. Maybe other people feel the same way.

Thanks.

Meliah
04-26-2012, 03:32 PM
Just a question... assuming someone (like myself) has absolutely no interest in obtaining 1/1 cards.

He or she could never become a super-collector? Or, if never is too strong of a word, he or she has a very slim chance of SC status?

I personally think they (1/1s) are a marketing ploy and I have no interest in stuffing the pockets of card companies more than I already do. Maybe other people feel the same way.

Thanks.

From a personal opinion I would say you no because I feel a SC goes after anything pertaining to their player no matter what it is. Though if you turned in an app that had a player collection completed at 75%, even without collecting 1/1's, I'm sure many would vote yes to said collection.

tygercub12
04-26-2012, 03:35 PM
I guess I'd better get a better job then. Or rob a bank. Or become a politician, which is pretty much the same as a bank robber... except I'm the bank (along with my fellow taxpayers).