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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by mrmopar View Post

    My thought is if you want to recognize player collectors in some special way and relate it to a trade function, then call it something else. Call it something like Player Collector Specialist or Star Player Collector and leave the "Super Collector" designation to those who self-proclaim it, deserving or not.

    Steffan already said most of the stuff I would've but I'll add this. What the heck does it matter what we call it? There is NO defined definition of Super Collector so saying you're a Super Collector, a Player Collector Specialist or the Supreme Ruler of All Cards Pujols that I Survey can be no difference.

    My apologies to the author of this idea, but as many of my ideas have been received similarily, this one ain't great!
    You're entitled to your opinion but this makes it sounds like you're just dumping on me because you're sour about other stuff.
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    #32
    Man, it didn't take long for you guys to jump on this one and defend the idea!!! It's just an opinion...

    I didn't know who's idea it was and was not looking to make anyone mad. I support most of what the Bench does and think the site is fantastic, but I just wasn't warm and fuzzy about this one. I offered a counterpoint because as usual all of the feedback was glowing. I sometimes think people won't offer differing opinions because of this. I am not sour over anything, by the way.

    I'd love to see the submissions though. As I said before, I think the term "super collector" is overused and I look forward to seeing who the staff feels deserves the designation and hopefully those collections are highlighted in some way.
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    #33
    You should read some of the PM's I get in--you'll see not everyone has glowing things to say about the site or myself

    Nobody is jumping on you, we have a right to our opinions as well.

    This SC thing here was my idea so I might tend to defend it more than most. Judging from the amount of responses we've had from this in only one day I would say that it's at least popular so far and that is what I wanted the most. Something fun for our members and unique from the other trading sites out there(until they steal this idea like they try to steal some of our other stuff!).
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    #34
    I hope they are from people who are trouble makers to begin with, as I have yet to see anything that would cause me concern over the site or the people here. It's usually the trouble makers who cry the loudest when they are called out for their actions! For instance, I am sure you get an earful from anyone who gets the boot.

    Off the subject, but I came across a funny picture today going through some Garvey stuff that you might appreciate. It was from a magazine and had this odd cartoon picture of Garvey where he appeared to be skipping along. Guess who's cartoon mug was tucked away in the corner of the picture...none other than Leon Durham!

    Quote Originally Posted by Meliah View Post
    You should read some of the PM's I get in--you'll see not everyone has glowing things to say about the site or myself
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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by mrmopar View Post
    I hope they are from people who are trouble makers to begin with, as I have yet to see anything that would cause me concern over the site or the people here. It's usually the trouble makers who cry the loudest when they are called out for their actions! For instance, I am sure you get an earful from anyone who gets the boot.

    Off the subject, but I came across a funny picture today going through some Garvey stuff that you might appreciate. It was from a magazine and had this odd cartoon picture of Garvey where he appeared to be skipping along. Guess who's cartoon mug was tucked away in the corner of the picture...none other than Leon Durham!
    I don't read the Emails I get from booted members anymore, they never contained anything except for swearing and name calling really

    I bet that cartoon has something to do with the 1984 playoffs. You know I hate Garvey right? I was listening to WGN nightly sports show and the Cubs fan on there was talking about all the people he hated being a Cubs fan--The Mets, Cardinals, Will Clark and the Giants and of course the Padres and Garvey. He said last year Garvey came in for a interview and was introducing himself to everyone. He came up to the Cubs fan(forgot his name now!) who shok his hand and said "You know I hate you" right to his face. Garvey replied with, "Must be a Cubs fan then"
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    #36
    When I started the thread a few months ago that I believe helped get this whole thing rolling, the problem was that under the Player Collectors tab here on the Bench, people had ten or twenty players listed and the list wasn't much help for potential trades.

    The idea was to be able to distinguish between the real player collectors and those collectors who listed players they simply didn't mind having cards of.

    I don't think anybody's goal was to call out the SUPER COLLECTIONS of SUPER COLLECTORS, I think it was simply to distinguish. (EDIT). (EDIT).

    Please keep in mind that people collecting retired/non-HOF guys like Steve Garvey require nowhere near the Paypal balance of someone collecting Nolan Ryan or Sandberg. I know Ryan has over 7,000 cards and Sandberg has 3,100, but a quick Garvey search shows barely 1,000. Not only does Sandberg have 3x more stuff, but it books exactly 4x more than Garvey. Basically, for every $1 you put into your collection, I would have to put in $12 to keep up with you percentage wise.

    Your collection is super - nobody is doubting that - but just because some of us are trying to collect harder players doesn't mean we shouldn't get perks if chosen.

    I'm just rambling at this point, but you get the idea.....
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    #37
    bzickefoose1--C'mon man, edit that post and be polite. Everyone is allowed to express their opinions. That comment of yours is uncalled for and rude. This is exactly how that post you're talking about got WAY out of hand.
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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Meliah View Post
    bzickefoose1--C'mon man, edit that post and be polite. Everyone is allowed to express their opinions. That comment of yours is uncalled for and rude. This is exactly how that post you're talking about got WAY out of hand.
    Maybe it wasn't the nicest thing yo say, but look what I was responding to:

    I'd love to see the submissions though. As I said before, I think the term "super collector" is overused and I look forward to seeing who the staff feels deserves the designation and hopefully those collections are highlighted in some way.
    He's getting ready to laugh at collections that simply don't measure up to his. I see that as a pretty arrogant comment and I don't think anyone has his back on that one.
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    #39
    Quote Originally Posted by bzickefoose1 View Post
    Maybe it wasn't the nicest thing yo say, but look what I was responding to:



    He's getting ready to laugh at collections that simply don't measure up to his. I see that as a pretty arrogant comment and I don't think anyone has his back on that one.
    One thing that everyone can agree on is almost everyone's definition of a SC is different. While I don't agree with his opinion it doesn't mean he's not allowed to have one. Personally I think you're reading into his comments a bit too much because I don't see them at all the way you do.
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    #40
    Wow, I can see this could get bad really quick. My only hope is that my submission/collection is judged on its own merrit by itself and not compared to another collection of a similar or same player, same # of cards available of a player, or same $ value. I would hate for a collection of any one player to be considered the benchmark and standard by which all other collections are judged to be worthy or not worthy by. It is not all about who has the deepest pockets and can afford all the uber rare cards. For me it is about the passion of collecting. I am certainly not into this for an investment. My two favorite players will never fetch the $ a Pujols, A-Rod, Jeter, or a Bonds collection will. I collect who I collect because I really like the player, I like to see the new card designs and how the industry has advanced over the past 25 years, it is fun to view and change the presentation and display of my entire collection, and meet other collecters and hopefully other collectors who collect the same player that we can help each other out. (Thank you Brian and "the Bench".) I am really happy for Brian to reach "Super Collector" status because he deserves it and am proud because I know I have helped him out a little. Not as near as much as he has helped me though!
    I would just hate to see people get offended and potentially leave this wonderful site because someone's opinion of their collection is different. Just for the record, I am one of the people who is a "self-proclaimed" super collector on my site. I seriously doubt I will stop using that term or stop calling myself one here even if my collection is not deemed worthy by someone else.
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    #41
    Let me know if I should even bother to submit something. I have been collecting Tino Martinez GU and Auto Cards. Thats really all I collect of him. But I have most of them and they are worth a lot of money. I just dont spend the time to collect his $0.10 cards because I want to focus on his Big Dollar cards. I might only have 40 of his GU and Autos but he doesnt have more them 70 out there. LMK what you guys think. Thanks
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    #42
    I was pretty hyped by this idea b/c I feel I am a supercollector. I do try to get anything I can of Edgerrin James including bobbleheads, SLU, McFarlanes, magazine covers, etc...I had no idea people would try to bash this b/c I saw it as something FUN and thats all it should be. Sometimes finding certain base cards is harder than finding that "rare #'d to 50 GU". Not too many people list base cards anywhere but it seems I have already seen 15 of the Edgerrin Ultimate Collection patches #'d out of 50 but can't find his 05 UD Portraits base card anywhere, thats part of the FUN, the hunt for the harder to find cards that shouldn't be. lol. Oh well I am still excited about the idea and can't wait to see what happens w/ it. I guess some people are mad already that they won't make the cut, instead of just trying to have fun w/ it.

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    #43
    Some people simply don't have deep enough pockets to make the cut (me being one of them).
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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by pac_rat_76 View Post
    Some people simply don't have deep enough pockets to make the cut (me being one of them).
    Same here
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    #45
    You don't need to have deep pockets to make the cut. You just need to be serious about collecting your guy. This isn't a contest of whose collection is bigger. In my mind, someone can't make a case that they are a super collector when they need a ton of easy base card type hits but are actively trading for other things.

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